alexphan wrote:

Sure, the name change would be a bit longer, but it would be a bit easier for other Scratchers to understand.

If you search “draft site:scratch.mit.edu/discuss” on Google, there are about 800 results and counting. This means that there are a few hundred (give or take a few) topics that ask what “draft” means.

Also, yes, you can figure out that “draft” means “work in progress” because it adds “work-in-progress” as a tag. But I feel that this minor text fix would clear up a lot of confusion, and plus, no one uses tags since they don't work in Explore.

Discuss your opinions on this, and I apologize if this is a duplicate. I searched it up and there was nothing so…
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also remember to be constructive when posting, and give a reason in your opinion, even if you support like this idea.

1. Many questions about many things in Scratch. Many users ask, “what is a remix”, “what is a studio”. “what is a sprite”, and etc. You can't expect them to stop asking these many questions. Also, it doesn't matter how many results one might receive, because there are thousands of New Scratchers asking more than thousands of questions.
2. This is false, for this reason:

theonlygusti wrote:

Note that semantically the two phrases don't quite convey the same meaning; a work in progress is ongoing at the moment, whereas calling something a draft implies that it is in a fixed state.

“This is a draft of what the application will look like” means that this is a working model of the application, and we will develop the application afterwards based on it.

“This is a work in progress application” means that the application is currently being extended and is not static.

support. It could prevent some confusion, but some people may use draft instead. However i think it could work.

Charles12310 wrote:

1. Draft mostly refers to a stage before an official part of something. People have mostly learned that in school, such as essay drafts and essay final drafts.

True, but “work in progress” isn't confusing at all, as anyone knowing what draft means should know what work in progress would mean. (Perhaps not the abbreviation.)

Another thing is this suggestion shouldn't get too complicated. Both loosely mean projects that aren't complete, but are in the works/at a fixed state in being completed, of course with minor differences.

I'm neutral on this change now. I like “draft” but I also like “work in progress.”

Charles12310 wrote:

3. 50% of users as in Scratch. If it's understandable, why would anyone get confused?

Who knows.

I think a name change is good, support!

Charles12310 wrote:

No Support. This for mostly English users, the term they would use is draft.

“Draft” on Google gives “338,000,000” results, compared to “Work In Progress”, which gives “ 219,000,000” results, meaning Draft is a more used word and a more understandable word.

Well, here's the thing, draft has multiple meanings.

Here is how google defines the word draft:
1.
a preliminary version of a piece of writing.
“the first draft of the party's manifesto”
a plan, sketch, or rough drawing.
synonyms: preliminary version, rough outline, plan, skeleton, abstract; More
COMPUTING
a mode of operation of a printer in which text is produced rapidly but with relatively low definition.
noun: draft mode; plural noun: draft modes
2.
US
compulsory recruitment for military service.
“25 million men were subject to the draft”
NORTH AMERICAN
a procedure whereby new or existing sports players are made available for selection or reselection by the teams in a league, usually with the earlier choices being given to the weaker teams.
rare
a group or individual selected from a larger group for a special duty, e.g., for military service.
3.
a current of cool air in a room or other confined space.
“heavy curtains at the windows cut out drafts”
synonyms: current of air, rush of air; More
4.
the action or act of pulling something along, especially a vehicle or farm implement.
5.
a written order to pay a specified sum; a check.
synonyms: check, order, money order, bill of exchange
“a bank draft”
6.
a single act of drinking or inhaling.
“she downed the remaining beer in one draft”
the amount swallowed or inhaled in a single act of drinking or inhaling.
“he took deep drafts of oxygen into his lungs”
synonyms: gulp, drink, swallow, mouthful, slug; More
7.
the depth of water needed to float a ship.
“the shallow draft enabled her to get close to shore”
8.
the drawing in of a fishing net.
the fish taken at one drawing; a catch.
verb
verb: draft; 3rd person present: drafts; past tense: drafted; past participle: drafted; gerund or present participle: drafting; verb: draught; 3rd person present: draughts; past tense: draughted; past participle: draughted; gerund or present participle: draughting
1.
prepare a preliminary version of (a text).
“I drafted a letter of resignation”
2.
select (a person or group of people) for a certain purpose.
“he was drafted to help with the task force on best safety practices”
US
conscript (someone) for military service.
NORTH AMERICAN
select (a player) for a sports team through the draft.
3.
pull or draw.
4.
MOTORSPORTS
benefit from reduced wind resistance by driving very closely behind another vehicle.
adjective
adjective: draught; adjective: draft
1.
denoting beer or other drink that is kept in and served from a barrel or tank rather than from a bottle or can.
“draft beer”
2.
denoting an animal used for pulling heavy loads.
“draft oxen”

Work in progress is more clear cut and has less meanings. Which would mean less searches.

aking_ wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

No Support. This for mostly English users, the term they would use is draft.

“Draft” on Google gives “338,000,000” results, compared to “Work In Progress”, which gives “ 219,000,000” results, meaning Draft is a more used word and a more understandable word.

Well, here's the thing, draft has multiple meanings.

Here is how google defines the word draft:
1.
a preliminary version of a piece of writing.
“the first draft of the party's manifesto”
a plan, sketch, or rough drawing.
synonyms: preliminary version, rough outline, plan, skeleton, abstract; More
COMPUTING
a mode of operation of a printer in which text is produced rapidly but with relatively low definition.
noun: draft mode; plural noun: draft modes
2.
US
compulsory recruitment for military service.
“25 million men were subject to the draft”
NORTH AMERICAN
a procedure whereby new or existing sports players are made available for selection or reselection by the teams in a league, usually with the earlier choices being given to the weaker teams.
rare
a group or individual selected from a larger group for a special duty, e.g., for military service.
3.
a current of cool air in a room or other confined space.
“heavy curtains at the windows cut out drafts”
synonyms: current of air, rush of air; More
4.
the action or act of pulling something along, especially a vehicle or farm implement.
5.
a written order to pay a specified sum; a check.
synonyms: check, order, money order, bill of exchange
“a bank draft”
6.
a single act of drinking or inhaling.
“she downed the remaining beer in one draft”
the amount swallowed or inhaled in a single act of drinking or inhaling.
“he took deep drafts of oxygen into his lungs”
synonyms: gulp, drink, swallow, mouthful, slug; More
7.
the depth of water needed to float a ship.
“the shallow draft enabled her to get close to shore”
8.
the drawing in of a fishing net.
the fish taken at one drawing; a catch.
verb
verb: draft; 3rd person present: drafts; past tense: drafted; past participle: drafted; gerund or present participle: drafting; verb: draught; 3rd person present: draughts; past tense: draughted; past participle: draughted; gerund or present participle: draughting
1.
prepare a preliminary version of (a text).
“I drafted a letter of resignation”
2.
select (a person or group of people) for a certain purpose.
“he was drafted to help with the task force on best safety practices”
US
conscript (someone) for military service.
NORTH AMERICAN
select (a player) for a sports team through the draft.
3.
pull or draw.
4.
MOTORSPORTS
benefit from reduced wind resistance by driving very closely behind another vehicle.
adjective
adjective: draught; adjective: draft
1.
denoting beer or other drink that is kept in and served from a barrel or tank rather than from a bottle or can.
“draft beer”
2.
denoting an animal used for pulling heavy loads.
“draft oxen”

Work in progress is more clear cut and has less meanings. Which would mean less searches.

I doubt anyone who is familiar with the word draft with have to go look at all of that or even someone who doesn't know about it.

Draft is not the same as Work In Progress. Period.

Charles12310 wrote:

I doubt anyone who is familiar with the word draft with have to go look at all of that or even someone who doesn't know about it.

Draft is not the same as Work In Progress. Period.

I mean that draft can be used in multiple contexts (unlike work in progress). Therefore, it would have more searches because you can use it in scenarios like “wind draft” or “football draft”. Which basically nullifies your statement.

aking_ wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

I doubt anyone who is familiar with the word draft with have to go look at all of that or even someone who doesn't know about it.

Draft is not the same as Work In Progress. Period.

I mean that draft can be used in multiple contexts (unlike work in progress). Therefore, it would have more searches because you can use it in scenarios like “wind draft” or “football draft”. Which basically nullifies your statement.

Anyone wondering that Draft was in Scratch would definitely not think of football. -_-

Charles12310 wrote:

Anyone wondering that Draft was in Scratch would definitely not think of football. -_-

Lol, but I mean that a lot of those google searches about draft would be about football drafts, fantasy football drafts, who was drafted in the 2017 NFL draft, etc.

EDIT: I looked at the 1st page of results for the word draft, and 9 out of 11 of those results were about the football draft.

Most of the topics are actually asking about what the button does. The ‘lots of confusion’ is nonexistent.
No support, there's simply no good reason to change it.

Earlier I said I went to neutral, now I'm not supporting it. It isn't quite worth rolling out in the form of an update.

I'd support a suggestion where a popup explains the meaning of “draft” once for younger audiences.

Reason for no support:

cul8er wrote:

Most of the topics are actually asking about what the button does. The ‘lots of confusion’ is nonexistent.
No support, there's simply no good reason to change it.

that button has been remove.