What about the key Join()() pressed
JSON trick?

epiccool5 wrote:

What about the key Join()() pressed
JSON trick?

What do you mean?

when I try something complex :: events hat
say [PLEASE GIVE ME LUCK!]

define debug
set [num v] to [1]
delete (all v) of [out v]
repeat (length of [all the messages v] :: list)
reset timer
broadcast (item (num) of [all the messages v] :: list) and wait
add ((timer) - (item (num) of [Usual time it takes to do a task v] :: list)) to [out v]
change [num v] by (1)
end

when backdrop switches to [thumbnail v]
delete (all v) of [lengthy list v]
hide
when green flag clicked
add all info to lengthy list
define add all info to lengthy list
delete (all v) of [lengthy list v]
repeat (200000)
add [hi] to [lengthy list v]
end

No Support. Some keys can't be used in operation in projects because one example is the “enter” key which starts the project.

Green_yoshi wrote:

epiccool5 wrote:

What about the key Join()() pressed
JSON trick?

What do you mean?

I'm pretty sure it involves saving your project as a .zip file and extracting it. Then, you can go to the .json file and open it in Notepad. You can edit the code, so you can put whatever key at the <key pressed> part.

Green_yoshi wrote:

epiccool5 wrote:

What about the key Join()() pressed
JSON trick?

What do you mean?

By modifying the project.json of a project, you can get a join _ _ block put in the key _ pressed dropdown:

<key (join[$][]) pressed?> // will detect if shift+4 is being pressed, at least on a US keyboard

Typing a letter in one of the inputs selects which key it should detect

when [Enter v] key pressed
say [Same]
wait until <key [Shift v] pressed?>
say [Press Tab To Agree]


when [Tab v] key pressed
if <[☁ Cloud Users v] contains (username) ?> then 

  say [You've Already Voted]
else
change [☁ People Who Agree v] by (1)
add (username) to [☁ Cloud Users v]
end

Sorry, I Was Bored, but i press

  <key [Tab v]>  

Support. Would be useful for certain features you want included in your project.

You can do this hacking blocks,but support.
It would be nice to use this:

<key [alt v] pressed?>

and using Maiusc is useful in text engines.

oh my gosh this would be so handy! full support

This is now more necessary than ever as @griffpatch 's ascii detector stopped working with the last update. 1,000,000% support

Kyle2Death wrote:

VoltageGames wrote:

Kyle2Death wrote:

MeDiaMond wrote:

AonymousGuy wrote:

Not enter, it is used for starting the project.

As for a lot of other keys, they can't be reliably detected by Flash because they are named different things for different keyboards, so that would end up causing a lot of confusion when some people could use projects which other people couldn't.

You're right Ithink, but how could griffpatch make a hack then?

I don't spport people who breake Scratch bounderys by hacking to get features thay need. Scratch was ment to be easy to learn.

It IS easy to learn! And people can get more useful tools thanks to griffpatch! Really, I'm surprised nobody thought of this during 1.4

It was meant to be a bad thing.
The thing is that if you get something from hacking, you have an adventage over most others, and hacking is different from Scratch so not many people know how to hack. People have to use what thay get, not from people that has more then others then taking from it. I do NOT support hacked games for Scratch and never will.

Problem is, hacking is REALLY easy. There are about fifteen tutorials for list inputs on custom blocks, and it can be done by anyone - it requires no special software - as all a .sb2 is is a .zip containing a .json and all images and sounds associated with the project inside. Unzip the zip and you can open the json in a text editor of your choice and thus get these ‘hacked’ blocks. Your philosophy of ‘Everyone should use what is handed to them and not try to use things other people have used or trying to make something new to use’ is not really practical. If everyone adopted that IRL, then technology wouldn't advance at all. The very thing you are against was applied in a real life situation to result in the devices you and I are using now. And they aren't breaking the boundaries of scratch - breaking the boundaries of scratch is making custom extensions or undefined blocks to do what currently isn't possible. Changing a key pressed boolean to Enter, Tab, or the like, is perfectly fair and legitimate (I even started a Ban Hacked Blocks thread at one point that Paddle replied to saying that if the block isn't hard to understand, it is perfectly ok for it to be hacked.)

Kyle2Death wrote:

I like to see more keys for “When key pressed” because there is only up, down, left, right, space, A-Z and 0-9. I like to see more keys like tab and other ones like symbols, enter, and shift.

YES thank you for pointing that out. that would be so helpful and would prevent problems with no solutions or loopholes, such as having space be next level and also jump. ENTER could be next level (keep in mind that I know a LOT of other keys could be used, but just bear with me here). That is, if we add it. Which we should, just giving and example and praise.

Yea this is a great idea tbh. Griffpatch “hacked” the json of a project to make a support for all keys, but it would still be nice to have this without “hacking”

Okay, let me just say one thing. THIS THREAD IS NOT RELEVANT ANYMORE. SCRATCH IS SWITCHING TO HTML CAN EVERY1 JUST ACCEPT THAT AND STOP NECROPOSTING ON VERY OLD TOPICS!!!
























thank you

MeDiaMond wrote:

+1 Support!

spgame05 wrote:

Support!

Last edited by Kaj (Jan. 1 1111 1:11:11)

1234abcdcba4321 wrote:

Support

chooper100 wrote:

support :: control

derpmeup wrote:

Support!

Z-zap wrote:

Support!

Why Do You Support This?

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

You can do this hacking blocks,but support.
It would be nice to use this:

<key [alt v] pressed?>

and using Maiusc is useful in text engines.

How can using hacked blocks make this work? The options already there were functioned for these keys, doing this:

<key (join [@][]) pressed?>

will not work unless the “@” button is functioned into that block. Simply changing the input won't make it work.

when [,] key pressed

or

<key [,] pressed?>

something like that plz

Charles12310 wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

You can do this hacking blocks,but support.
It would be nice to use this:

<key [alt v] pressed?>

and using Maiusc is useful in text engines.

How can using hacked blocks make this work? The options already there were functioned for these keys, doing this:

<key (join [@][]) pressed?>

will not work unless the “@” button is functioned into that block. Simply changing the input won't make it work.

i tried

<key (join [,] []) pressed?>

and it doesn't work

pingas93 wrote:

Charles12310 wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

You can do this hacking blocks,but support.
It would be nice to use this:

<key [alt v] pressed?>

and using Maiusc is useful in text engines.

How can using hacked blocks make this work? The options already there were functioned for these keys, doing this:

<key (join [@][]) pressed?>

will not work unless the “@” button is functioned into that block. Simply changing the input won't make it work.

i tried

<key (join [,] []) pressed?>

and it doesn't work

Exactly, you don't expect the code to figure it out for you unless it has been functioned. Scratch Team wouldn't make a script that detects pressing of keys not included because it can't be detected using a Scratch block. Therefore, the only keys that are functioned for key pressing detection are the ones in the dropdown.

Also, it requires editing the JSON code, which not everyone knows how to do, and even at a few glances it's difficult to tell what to do, and most of us aren't even middle schoolers.

savaka wrote:

I think you should be able to do any key you want on the keyboard for the key press block. I know Flash can do this so it is possible. Maybe you could click on the field in the key press block and instead of a drop down menu it says “Press the key you want” and then you press it and it goes in the block.

EDIT: except the Windows key, menu key, volume/media keys, or anything else that is not used by other applications

Looks like you have two ideas . Good edit note, you couldn't escape unless a full shutdown without it. Flash is just a website video/media/presentation player that works with Scratch. You may want to say that other programs can use CTRL, Shift, and ALT since ALT really doesn't have a purpose for escape or anything. Agreed that you should be able to click a key and have it automatically set. I'd rather not waste 10 seconds of my life finding a key xD.

This could cause other problems though, and would be hard to code.

Verdict: SUPPORT!