TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

I had to go down two pages in my messages to find the last notification from here. Where did everyone go?!

Idk. I just watched Game Theory's new Undertale theory. It has good math, but major logic loops and some mathematical issues. It also ignores some of the lore. Overall, the data collecting is very solid but the lore research is too loose for me to consider it an accurate theory.

Anyways, the main issue I have with theory is (spoiler warning I guess) that Austin mentions that some monsters may have absorbed human souls. However, if they did, wouldn't those monsters have been able to cross the barrier, collect more souls, and free the other monsters? The fact that no monsters do this shows that probably no monster that we meet in the game has absorbed a soul. Austin also speculates that Undyne collected a soul, but it is heavily implied in game that Undyne was not alive before or during the war. He also speculates that Sans has a human soul, however that contradicts the idea that souls boost defense since Sans has 1 defense, an extremely low number. Considering that Flowey easily kills Asgore in the tenocide run, he probably doesn't have a human soul.

Austin also uses the data in the code for Asriel's defense (which is 9999) rather than infinity. This is a serious mathematical issue as 9999 and infinity are very different. I personally believe that he should have used infinity for his data since that's what the game itself says. Asriel having infinite defense makes more sense since he has the equivalent of 7 human souls, which basically makes someone a god like being, meaning that they are pretty much invincible. This also explains why the 7th soul seems so much more powerful than the previous 6; it basically makes Asriel a god.

However, one thing Austin probably did get right is that some monster tried to get a human soul, otherwise, it makes no sense why humans would be afriad. However, seeing that monsters lost, whoever that monster was probably failed, or succeeded but then was killed, so none of the in game monsters also have a human soul.

What am I doing with my life. I should seriously do some math instead of writing pointless essays.

What was the theory?

and i should seriously be working on drawing instead of listening to the full sountrack

He theorized that some monsters had collected human souls before going to the underground with some interesting mathematics that would make sense if you ignore the lore and some basic mathematics. Probably watch the video, I can't explain logarithms or trig.

I actually don't think that's a possible theory lorewise…

I agree. It also has a few mathematical inconsistencies.

I'm pretty much terrible at math, so I wouldn't have noticed. However, if that theory was possible, the game probably would have ended a lot sooner, if it even happened.

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

I had to go down two pages in my messages to find the last notification from here. Where did everyone go?!

Idk. I just watched Game Theory's new Undertale theory. It has good math, but major logic loops and some mathematical issues. It also ignores some of the lore. Overall, the data collecting is very solid but the lore research is too loose for me to consider it an accurate theory.

Anyways, the main issue I have with theory is (spoiler warning I guess) that Austin mentions that some monsters may have absorbed human souls. However, if they did, wouldn't those monsters have been able to cross the barrier, collect more souls, and free the other monsters? The fact that no monsters do this shows that probably no monster that we meet in the game has absorbed a soul. Austin also speculates that Undyne collected a soul, but it is heavily implied in game that Undyne was not alive before or during the war. He also speculates that Sans has a human soul, however that contradicts the idea that souls boost defense since Sans has 1 defense, an extremely low number. Considering that Flowey easily kills Asgore in the tenocide run, he probably doesn't have a human soul.

Austin also uses the data in the code for Asriel's defense (which is 9999) rather than infinity. This is a serious mathematical issue as 9999 and infinity are very different. I personally believe that he should have used infinity for his data since that's what the game itself says. Asriel having infinite defense makes more sense since he has the equivalent of 7 human souls, which basically makes someone a god like being, meaning that they are pretty much invincible. This also explains why the 7th soul seems so much more powerful than the previous 6; it basically makes Asriel a god.

However, one thing Austin probably did get right is that some monster tried to get a human soul, otherwise, it makes no sense why humans would be afriad. However, seeing that monsters lost, whoever that monster was probably failed, or succeeded but then was killed, so none of the in game monsters also have a human soul.

What am I doing with my life. I should seriously do some math instead of writing pointless essays.

What was the theory?

and i should seriously be working on drawing instead of listening to the full sountrack

He theorized that some monsters had collected human souls before going to the underground with some interesting mathematics that would make sense if you ignore the lore and some basic mathematics. Probably watch the video, I can't explain logarithms or trig.

I actually don't think that's a possible theory lorewise…

I agree. It also has a few mathematical inconsistencies.

I'm pretty much terrible at math, so I wouldn't have noticed. However, if that theory was possible, the game probably would have ended a lot sooner, if it even happened.

The main math issue is the replacement of infinity with the number 9999. If the theory was true, the game probably would have never started since monsters with souls would just leave, collect more souls, and break the barrier.

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

I had to go down two pages in my messages to find the last notification from here. Where did everyone go?!

Idk. I just watched Game Theory's new Undertale theory. It has good math, but major logic loops and some mathematical issues. It also ignores some of the lore. Overall, the data collecting is very solid but the lore research is too loose for me to consider it an accurate theory.

Anyways, the main issue I have with theory is (spoiler warning I guess) that Austin mentions that some monsters may have absorbed human souls. However, if they did, wouldn't those monsters have been able to cross the barrier, collect more souls, and free the other monsters? The fact that no monsters do this shows that probably no monster that we meet in the game has absorbed a soul. Austin also speculates that Undyne collected a soul, but it is heavily implied in game that Undyne was not alive before or during the war. He also speculates that Sans has a human soul, however that contradicts the idea that souls boost defense since Sans has 1 defense, an extremely low number. Considering that Flowey easily kills Asgore in the tenocide run, he probably doesn't have a human soul.

Austin also uses the data in the code for Asriel's defense (which is 9999) rather than infinity. This is a serious mathematical issue as 9999 and infinity are very different. I personally believe that he should have used infinity for his data since that's what the game itself says. Asriel having infinite defense makes more sense since he has the equivalent of 7 human souls, which basically makes someone a god like being, meaning that they are pretty much invincible. This also explains why the 7th soul seems so much more powerful than the previous 6; it basically makes Asriel a god.

However, one thing Austin probably did get right is that some monster tried to get a human soul, otherwise, it makes no sense why humans would be afriad. However, seeing that monsters lost, whoever that monster was probably failed, or succeeded but then was killed, so none of the in game monsters also have a human soul.

What am I doing with my life. I should seriously do some math instead of writing pointless essays.

What was the theory?

and i should seriously be working on drawing instead of listening to the full sountrack

He theorized that some monsters had collected human souls before going to the underground with some interesting mathematics that would make sense if you ignore the lore and some basic mathematics. Probably watch the video, I can't explain logarithms or trig.

I actually don't think that's a possible theory lorewise…

I agree. It also has a few mathematical inconsistencies.

I'm pretty much terrible at math, so I wouldn't have noticed. However, if that theory was possible, the game probably would have ended a lot sooner, if it even happened.

The main math issue is the replacement of infinity with the number 9999. If the theory was true, the game probably would have never started since monsters with souls would just leave, collect more souls, and break the barrier.

…Infinity and 9999 aren't the same thing. Infinity is much higher, so I agree with you there. And yeah, either that or they would have collected seven much earlier, and nothing would have happened once the main character fell down.

Sarcastic_Stoat wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

TeamRocketFan wrote:

I had to go down two pages in my messages to find the last notification from here. Where did everyone go?!

Idk. I just watched Game Theory's new Undertale theory. It has good math, but major logic loops and some mathematical issues. It also ignores some of the lore. Overall, the data collecting is very solid but the lore research is too loose for me to consider it an accurate theory.

Anyways, the main issue I have with theory is (spoiler warning I guess) that Austin mentions that some monsters may have absorbed human souls. However, if they did, wouldn't those monsters have been able to cross the barrier, collect more souls, and free the other monsters? The fact that no monsters do this shows that probably no monster that we meet in the game has absorbed a soul. Austin also speculates that Undyne collected a soul, but it is heavily implied in game that Undyne was not alive before or during the war. He also speculates that Sans has a human soul, however that contradicts the idea that souls boost defense since Sans has 1 defense, an extremely low number. Considering that Flowey easily kills Asgore in the tenocide run, he probably doesn't have a human soul.

Austin also uses the data in the code for Asriel's defense (which is 9999) rather than infinity. This is a serious mathematical issue as 9999 and infinity are very different. I personally believe that he should have used infinity for his data since that's what the game itself says. Asriel having infinite defense makes more sense since he has the equivalent of 7 human souls, which basically makes someone a god like being, meaning that they are pretty much invincible. This also explains why the 7th soul seems so much more powerful than the previous 6; it basically makes Asriel a god.

However, one thing Austin probably did get right is that some monster tried to get a human soul, otherwise, it makes no sense why humans would be afriad. However, seeing that monsters lost, whoever that monster was probably failed, or succeeded but then was killed, so none of the in game monsters also have a human soul.

What am I doing with my life. I should seriously do some math instead of writing pointless essays.

What was the theory?

and i should seriously be working on drawing instead of listening to the full sountrack

He theorized that some monsters had collected human souls before going to the underground with some interesting mathematics that would make sense if you ignore the lore and some basic mathematics. Probably watch the video, I can't explain logarithms or trig.

I actually don't think that's a possible theory lorewise…

I agree. It also has a few mathematical inconsistencies.

I'm pretty much terrible at math, so I wouldn't have noticed. However, if that theory was possible, the game probably would have ended a lot sooner, if it even happened.

The main math issue is the replacement of infinity with the number 9999. If the theory was true, the game probably would have never started since monsters with souls would just leave, collect more souls, and break the barrier.

…Infinity and 9999 aren't the same thing. Infinity is much higher, so I agree with you there. And yeah, either that or they would have collected seven much earlier, and nothing would have happened once the main character fell down.

I haven't seen the video, but didn't one of the signs in Waterfall actually say that the monsters never managed to collect a soul?

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Hi! I'm just posting because I haven't in a while.

Birdmusic wrote:

I personally really like orchestrations of Undertale pieces. Idk why, maybe it's because I'm in band and I enjoy listening to how each individual instrument and part makes the melody richer. Also, orchestras have to ability to both capture the most delicate and emotional melodies and the harshest and loudest melodies. I really like pieces with woodwind in them, but maybe it's because I play woodwind. Swing remixes are also nice, although they can loose the feel of the piece.

xStormfang wrote:

i'm gonna do the hunger games with some undertale characters and as many active undertale thread ppl there are

Sarcastic_Stoat wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

I personally really like orchestrations of Undertale pieces. Idk why, maybe it's because I'm in band and I enjoy listening to how each individual instrument and part makes the melody richer. Also, orchestras have to ability to both capture the most delicate and emotional melodies and the harshest and loudest melodies. I really like pieces with woodwind in them, but maybe it's because I play woodwind. Swing remixes are also nice, although they can loose the feel of the piece.

I'm honestly obsessed with Undertale orchestrations too. Quite a lot of them sound better than the actual soundtrack, especially for things like Heartache (I think the in-game Heartache is kind of lacking tbh)

SPEAKING OF WHICH, this orchestration of Spider Dance was posted yesterday!

AnimationWarriorCats wrote:

Sarcastic_Stoat wrote:

Birdmusic wrote:

I personally really like orchestrations of Undertale pieces. Idk why, maybe it's because I'm in band and I enjoy listening to how each individual instrument and part makes the melody richer. Also, orchestras have to ability to both capture the most delicate and emotional melodies and the harshest and loudest melodies. I really like pieces with woodwind in them, but maybe it's because I play woodwind. Swing remixes are also nice, although they can loose the feel of the piece.

I'm honestly obsessed with Undertale orchestrations too. Quite a lot of them sound better than the actual soundtrack, especially for things like Heartache (I think the in-game Heartache is kind of lacking tbh)

SPEAKING OF WHICH, this orchestration of Spider Dance was posted yesterday!

I adore how dramatic orchestrations sound, and stuff like…Heartache, Hopes and Dreams, BAATH, etc. really do sound better with more…fierceness? Should I say? Eh, point is I adore orchestrations of soundtracks.

Also, simply piano (any type) versions are the bomb.

xStormfang wrote:

i'm gonna do the hunger games with some undertale characters and as many active undertale thread ppl there are

AnimationWarriorCats wrote:

undertale but everytime you die an image of a temmie gets clearer and clearer until it covers your screen

quality page starter amiright

Sarcastic_Stoat wrote:

AnimationWarriorCats wrote:

undertale but everytime you die an image of a temmie gets clearer and clearer until it covers your screen

quality page starter amiright

The sad thing is I'd probably buy it again just for this feature

xStormfang wrote:

Sarcastic_Stoat wrote:

AnimationWarriorCats wrote:

undertale but everytime you die an image of a temmie gets clearer and clearer until it covers your screen

quality page starter amiright

The sad thing is I'd probably buy it again just for this feature

that and bad translation russian sans

Sarcastic_Stoat wrote:

AnimationWarriorCats wrote:

undertale but everytime you die an image of a temmie gets clearer and clearer until it covers your screen

quality page starter amiright

The sad thing is I'd probably buy it again just for this feature

scratcher7_13 wrote:

I first heard about Undertale here and now it's one of my favorite games. Pretty awesome!