Browser Usage of Scratchers?

PullJosh

Note: This topic is borderline AT-worthy. ST, feel free to move it.

With the introduction of the CSS Grid, I'm starting to get curious about browser support and how many old browsers a website should be functional on. I'd love to see browser usage statistics for websites like Scratch, to see what should and should not be supported. If anyone has a website with analytics, particularly with a target market similar to Scratch's, I'd love to see which browsers are being used frequently. (Alternatively, if the ST is willing to share, that'd be wonderful.

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blob8108

As of 16 Sep 2015, the ST support IE9 and up:

our minimum browser support for the Scratch website is here: https://scratch.mit.edu/info/faq/#requirements. So to answer your question we recently dropped support for IE 8, and now only support IE 9 or above.

I don't know what scratch-www supports.

But our question is really about statistics: what people use, not what Scratch supports. Have you searched the scratch-www GitHub? There might be a comment there with some stats in

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bobbybee

I'd offer to grep the logs of a medium-profile site I administrate, although its audience has a *strong* bent, due to its subject matter.

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novice27b

If you want stats for global web usage, check this out: https://www.netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=2&qpcustomd=0

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scratchisthebest

Very silly and unscientific way to get some results: Just horribly abuse Google search!

Obviously biased towards people who are having technical problems (because of the main use case of the globe button) and the first page of results is just “Share your OS lolol” threads. But it's something?

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novice27b

scratchisthebest wrote:
Very silly and unscientific way to get some results: Just horribly abuse Google search!

Obviously biased towards people who are having technical problems (because of the main use case of the globe button) and the first page of results is just “Share your OS lolol” threads. But it's something?

Hah, that's actually quite clever. If I had the time, I'd write a web scraper to collect the data.

i use arch btw

Darkwren

Scratch still works on unsupported browsers; it just isn't supported.

I used Scratch on the version of Safari that ships with Lion for a while, while it wasn't supported it was fully functional and I had no problems. Basically, all you need is flash (which I can't seem to get working on my Lemonade web browser).

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__init__

Darkwren wrote:
Scratch still works on unsupported browsers; it just isn't supported.

I used Scratch on the version of Safari that ships with Lion for a while, while it wasn't supported it was fully functional and I had no problems. Basically, all you need is flash (which I can't seem to get working on my Lemonade web browser).

“Not supported” basically means that if someone complains that “omg this site isn't working on my internet explorer 5 for mac!!!”, they won't be bothered to fix it.

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CatIsFluffy

Speaking of that, what are the minimum browsers as of now?

IcyCoder

Scratch-render uses webGL so it may not work for some older browsers

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nathanprocks

__init__ wrote:
Darkwren wrote:
Scratch still works on unsupported browsers; it just isn't supported.

I used Scratch on the version of Safari that ships with Lion for a while, while it wasn't supported it was fully functional and I had no problems. Basically, all you need is flash (which I can't seem to get working on my Lemonade web browser).
“Not supported” basically means that if someone complains that “omg this site isn't working on my internet explorer 5 for mac!!!”, they won't be bothered to fix it.

I tried to access the Scratch website using IE5 on Windows 3.11 (on a real PC, not a VM). Unfortunately, it doesn't support TLS.

My browser / operating system: Macrosoft Winding XO, Internet Exploder 6.0, Angel Player ver.:1.2.5
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frodewin

PullJosh wrote:
If anyone has a website with analytics, particularly with a target market similar to Scratch's, I'd love to see which browsers are being used frequently.

These are the most used browsers from the site http://scratch-dach.info/ (the German Scratch Wiki with almost 600 articles and 9500 visitors per month):

1. Chrome               35.99%
2. Firefox              32.36%
3. Safari               12.45%
4. Internet Explorer    10.73%
5. Edge                  5.83%
6. Opera                 1.08%
7. Android Browser       0.60%
8. Android Webview       0.52%
9. Amazon Silk           0.20%

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frodewin

Addendum: We have to consider that the DACH Wiki visitors are typically German speakers, so most of them are from Germany.

When we compare the browser distribution to Germany and the World, we can see that

Germans are Firefox fans, while the World prefers Chrome. I would expect much more Chrome users on an international site like scratch.mit.edu
Scratchers use Safari more often than the average user
we have almost as many IE users than in average Germany, 10% (I expected much less IE users to be honest)

			DACH-Wiki	Germany Desktop	Worldwide Desktop
1. Chrome		35.99%		34.05%		63.48%
2. Firefox		32.36%		36.66%		14.52%
3. Safari		12.45%		7.19%		5.2%
4. Internet Explorer	10.73%		11.17%		9.02%
5. Edge			5.83%		5.68%		3.69%
6. Opera		1.08%		3.77%		2.07%

Source http://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worldwide

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PullJosh

Interesting stats. Thanks frodewin!

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