Love the guide btw, lol.

I'll edit my OP just in case if the ST did delete their post.

FoxAlpha wrote:

Love the guide btw, lol.

Thank you.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

I'll edit my OP just in case if the ST did delete their post.

Okay, I'll do the same (similar but not identical.)

FoxAlpha wrote:

Love the guide btw, lol.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

I'll edit my OP just in case if the ST did delete their post.

Seems fishy….

jromagnoli wrote:

FoxAlpha wrote:

Love the guide btw, lol.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

I'll edit my OP just in case if the ST did delete their post.

Seems fishy….

What seems fishy?

What had happened was someone asked about something inappropriate but the original post was missing. We modified our quotes just in case if it was the ST who had removed that post. If they did, they typically modify quotes of the same post, to remove such inappropriate questions.

Austinato wrote:

jromagnoli wrote:

FoxAlpha wrote:

Love the guide btw, lol.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

I'll edit my OP just in case if the ST did delete their post.

Seems fishy….

What seems fishy?

What had happened was someone asked about something inappropriate but the original post was missing. We modified our quotes just in case if it was the ST who had removed that post. If they did, they typically modify quotes of the same post, to remove such inappropriate questions.

I mean that those two scratchers post very similar to each other.

jromagnoli wrote:

Austinato wrote:

jromagnoli wrote:

FoxAlpha wrote:

Love the guide btw, lol.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

I'll edit my OP just in case if the ST did delete their post.

Seems fishy….

What seems fishy?

What had happened was someone asked about something inappropriate but the original post was missing. We modified our quotes just in case if it was the ST who had removed that post. If they did, they typically modify quotes of the same post, to remove such inappropriate questions.

I mean that those two scratchers post very similar to each other.

I'm still confused?

Austinato wrote:

jromagnoli wrote:

Austinato wrote:

jromagnoli wrote:

FoxAlpha wrote:

Love the guide btw, lol.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

I'll edit my OP just in case if the ST did delete their post.

Seems fishy….

What seems fishy?

What had happened was someone asked about something inappropriate but the original post was missing. We modified our quotes just in case if it was the ST who had removed that post. If they did, they typically modify quotes of the same post, to remove such inappropriate questions.

I mean that those two scratchers post very similar to each other.

I'm still confused?

I think they are the same person.

Alright, finally, after a few weeks, the original post has been modified. Quotes are currently removed and it says that it'll be in a separate post, but I'll add that later. (The new post will be a depository of helpful quotes.)

I started progress last night (EDT) and I had to complete it today.

Changelog:

• Revised disclaimers that cover the fact that content not mentioned should still be re-considered before posting.
  
• Title is now orange.
  
• New introductory statement.
  
• Violence & Blood is a new section, combining the aspects of guns, blood, and weapon usage. It is also the only full section at the moment (that I plan to descale and split up, however I like the more simpler layout it is right now - especially how it is short and to the point.)
  
• Sections are boldened and subsections are boldalicized (new word - italicized and boldened.)
  
• End message is now different.
  
• As stated previously, quotes will be in a separate post soon to come.
  

As usual, feedback is greatly appreciated!

I like the update.

I'll ask a question I'm pondering about later.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

I like the update.

I'll ask a question I'm pondering about later.

Okay.

Okay, semi-sarcastic question here, but, can we have stories in which characters have and express negative feelings?

It sounds silly, but it's kinda serious. Let me clarify:

Most interesting stories have some complex form of conflict. Here's a relatively simple one: there's a party of three going out on an adventure. They've all got the same purpose for the adventure (it's irrelevant, but maybe they're looking for a plentiful but hard to get to cure for any sickness). However, there's two party members that don't much like each other. (Maybe they're old rivals!) That dislike creates a tension in the whole party.

Now, eventually, these two party members get in a fight. (Maybe at a crossroad where the party has to decide where to go.) It's essentially a verbal fight – that is, they aren't going to physically fight each other, but it's more serious than a quarrel over which pizza to pick.

There's no swearing or curses, but the two characters do say things that will likely hurt each other. You know, emotionally. It's possible one of the characters will hit the other in a weak spot, so to speak (you know, by saying something that's personally offensive or disrespectful).

Is this type of event appropriate for Scratch?

––––––––––

I'm curious what your opinions are on that example. If you deemed that appropriate for Scratch, there's another story example I'd like to mention.

We've got a similar party. It's still made of three members going on a quest together. To make this simpler, I'll give the characters names and describe them below:

• Avin is a determined party member. But Avin gets distracted. He likes to help out wherever he can, which gets him somewhat sidetracked. He still really wants to complete his objective, though – possibly the most out of all the party members! It's just difficult for others to see that, when he always seems to be helping others instead of focusing on the quest.
  
  
• Glynn doesn't like Avin. Avin really gets on Glynn's nerves. Glynn sees Avin as the happy-go-lucky kind of person – he just doesn't seem to care about much that's important!
  
  
• Pasta is the third party member. Pasta has good friendships with both Glynn and Avin.
  

I want to make something clear, here. Avin doesn't know that Glynn doesn't like him. Glynn does a good job of controlling themself; it's difficult to tell how frustrating Avin is to them.

However, now, Avin did something that really hurt Glynn. It wasn't intentional (he never intentionally does something mean), but it still pushed Glynn over the edge. So Glynn releases their frustration. They just spit out their raw emotions to Avin.

Glynn isn't intentionally trying to be mean, or horrible, or anything. But the things they say – it's still really shocking, and painful, to Avin. Avin never tries to do anything bad, and suddenly, they're told (yelled at!) that they've been hurting Glynn all along?

In common, both examples give these feelings:

• Anger. In both examples, there's a party member being mean to the other, intentionally or otherwise. And it becomes a heated argument.
  
  
• Sadness. It wouldn't be surprising if the events split up the party. Friendships have been formed in the party (in one case, despite the tension of these two characters' dislike for each other), and those friendships might be hurt, or otherwise affected.
  
  
• Anxiety and tension. In the first example, the tension that's been formed from the two is forming into an argument, a fight. It's an important fight. Everything that's said is going to affect the party. In the second, it's a huge dump of negative feelings right onto the other, who was never even aware he was doing anything wrong.
  

I know, this is complicated. But that's kind of the point, and it leads to my question:

Is it inappropriate for Scratch for characters in a story to have a conflict, and to express the conflict in a verbal but emotionally painful way?

PS, I'm not actually writing any stories like the one I described above, and even if I was, I probably wouldn't make a project about it and share that on Scratch. Not that I'm jumping to the conclusion that it is inappropriate for Scratch, it's just that I'd rather program it in a more portable and convenient way!

edit: a quick they -> he I missed in the Glynn description

_nix wrote:

Okay, semi-sarcastic question here, but, can we have stories in which characters have and express negative feelings?

It sounds silly, but it's kinda serious. Let me clarify:

Most interesting stories have some complex form of conflict. Here's a relatively simple one: there's a party of three going out on an adventure. They've all got the same purpose for the adventure (it's irrelevant, but maybe they're looking for a plentiful but hard to get to cure for any sickness). However, there's two party members that don't much like each other. (Maybe they're old rivals!) That dislike creates a tension in the whole party.

Now, eventually, these two party members get in a fight. (Maybe at a crossroad where the party has to decide where to go.) It's essentially a verbal fight – that is, they aren't going to physically fight each other, but it's more serious than a quarrel over which pizza to pick.

There's no swearing or curses, but the two characters do say things that will likely hurt each other. You know, emotionally. It's possible one of the characters will hit the other in a weak spot, so to speak (you know, by saying something that's personally offensive or disrespectful).

Is this type of event appropriate for Scratch?

Before responding to this, do understand that I read the entire post. I would like to make sure that you're talking about anger and possible disrespect between two user-generated characters in an animation, game, or so on. I think this is somewhat fine, just as long as it isn't disrespectful to people of specific backgrounds, experiences, or so on extremely, and it doesn't include gore, or - other stuff.

Still, this is still considered disrespectful, so I am a bit neutral on this.

Yet again, I'm not a Scratch Team member and this is simply a guide, but for my personal perspective, I would think this is a very neutral topic, going extreme is of course not fine for Scratch, but I don't want to set specific limits to this.

Austinato wrote:

Before responding to this, do understand that I read the entire post. I would like to make sure that you're talking about anger and possible disrespect between two user-generated characters in an animation, game, or so on. I think this is somewhat fine, just as long as it isn't disrespectful to people of specific backgrounds, experiences, or so on extremely, and it doesn't include gore, or - other stuff.

Still, this is still considered disrespectful, so I am a bit neutral on this.

Yet again, I'm not a Scratch Team member and this is simply a guide, but for my personal perspective, I would think this is a very neutral topic, going extreme is of course not fine for Scratch, but I don't want to set specific limits to this.

Okay, cool. I'm honestly just looking for what peoples' opinions are on it.

Yeah, it is about two fictional characters. They don't exist in the real world, at all (i.e. they aren't personifications of any real world people).

I imagine it wouldn't be disrespectful towards particular groups, etc. Just on the personal level (for example, "it's your fault for not winning the contest! we'd have gotten the medicine, and the whole town would be alright! now we're here, and everyone is in trouble!"). And of course, no gore and what-not.

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_nix wrote:

I imagine it wouldn't be disrespectful towards particular groups, etc. Just on the personal level (for example, "it's your fault for not winning the contest! we'd have gotten the medicine, and the whole town would be alright! now we're here, and everyone is in trouble!"). And of course, no gore and what-not.

(edit: snip out quote)

That scenario, in my perspective, has no problem.

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

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Thanks once again!

Austinato wrote:

awsome_guy_360 wrote:

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Thanks once again!

No prob.

Digital_Gaming wrote:

TealWashableMarker wrote:

Digital_Gaming wrote:

VinTale wrote:

what if a project has a charecter thats about to say a curse word, but the scene either changes right before or the charecter says something else before he/she says a curse word?

First ones fine second one not so much.

Neither is fine, actually. Both imply that the character is about to say a curse word, so that is not allowed.

Implcations are allowed.

Proof?

TealWashableMarker wrote:

Digital_Gaming wrote:

TealWashableMarker wrote:

Digital_Gaming wrote:

VinTale wrote:

what if a project has a charecter thats about to say a curse word, but the scene either changes right before or the charecter says something else before he/she says a curse word?

First ones fine second one not so much.

Neither is fine, actually. Both imply that the character is about to say a curse word, so that is not allowed.

Implcations are allowed.

Proof?

I think they are, but they risk being nfe'd