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dude341
Scratcher
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Scratch 3.0

About http://llk.github.io/scratch-vm : Why did they remove a lot of updates? I remember 3.0 having single stepping, a pause button, etc. Is there a way to get those features back?
Yes, I do like 3.0 now.
EDIT: Oh, it looks like they were removed for being buggy, but they will be added back. I still want a version with these features.

Last edited by dude341 (Oct. 26, 2016 10:11:05)

chooper100
Scratcher
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Scratch 3.0

scratchisthebest wrote:

https://llk.github.io/scratch-gui/

Lolol

Go to the sounds tab and click on the red thing
lolololol

I had seen that page before, but was keeping it quiet in case the ST wanted it kept secret
IcyCoder
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Scratch 3.0

dude341 wrote:

About http://llk.github.io/scratch-vm : Why did they remove a lot of updates? I remember 3.0 having single stepping, a pause button, etc. Is there a way to get those features back?
Yes, I do like 3.0 now.
EDIT: Oh, it looks like they were removed for being buggy, but they will be added back. I still want a version with these features.
They were actually removed for cross-compatibility issues they maybe added back.
IcyCoder
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0

PullJosh wrote:

Just a thought: atan2 should be included as a math operation in 3.0.
Make a pr on scratch-vm?
-Io-
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1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0

IcyCoder wrote:

dude341 wrote:

About http://llk.github.io/scratch-vm : Why did they remove a lot of updates? I remember 3.0 having single stepping, a pause button, etc. Is there a way to get those features back?
Yes, I do like 3.0 now.
EDIT: Oh, it looks like they were removed for being buggy, but they will be added back. I still want a version with these features.
They were actually removed for cross-compatibility issues they maybe added back.
No, dude341 is right. https://github.com/LLK/scratch-vm/pull/294

After a design discussion yesterday, it seems that both of these would need to be reimplemented in a different way. Also, I realized that this implementation doesn't match Scratch 1.0 single-stepping. In that implementation, execution proceeds to step through threads in the same order it would in normal mode. But, in this implementation, it allows all threads to be stepped in a single stepThreads, which actually changes the execution behavior. If we want a correct implementation, it would need to be redone.
chooper100
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Scratch 3.0

Just in case anyone hadn't noticed, I'd like to point out a couple of blocks in the sound category for https://llk.github.io/scratch-vm/

set effect [echo v] to (10) :: sound

change effect [echo v] by (10) :: sound

clear audio effects :: sound

The current listed effects are: (although they don't work)
  • echo
  • pan left/right
  • reverb
  • pitch
-Io-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0

chooper100 wrote:

Just in case anyone hadn't noticed, I'd like to point out a couple of blocks in the sound category for https://llk.github.io/scratch-vm/

set effect [echo v] to (10) :: sound

change effect [echo v] by (10) :: sound

clear audio effects :: sound

The current listed effects are: (although they don't work)
  • echo
  • pan left/right
  • reverb
  • pitch
They work on https://llk.github.io/scratch-gui/ tho

And yes, we have noticed

PullJosh wrote:

scratchisthebest wrote:

https://llk.github.io/scratch-gui/

Lolol

Go to the sounds tab and click on the red thing
O_O SOUND EFFECTS?

Aww yeah!

Clarifying edit: Talking about the (new?) “set effect” block in the sounds category.
goldfish678
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0

Can we just point out how good the piano sounds in 3.0?
technoboy10
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1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0

I'll just leave this here
BKFighter
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0

technoboy10 wrote:

I'll just leave this here
Can Airhorn be an instrument instead of a sound? Or both actually?
technoboy10
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0

BKFighter wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

I'll just leave this here
Can Airhorn be an instrument instead of a sound? Or both actually?
No clue, I just thought it was funny that an airhorn and spoopy skeleton music were in the editor on load
BKFighter
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0

technoboy10 wrote:

BKFighter wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

I'll just leave this here
Can Airhorn be an instrument instead of a sound? Or both actually?
No clue, I just thought it was funny that an airhorn and spoopy skeleton music were in the editor on load
I keep telling the other percussionists at my school: tonal bass drums are a thing, so why can't we get a pair of tonal airhorns to use instead of bass drums?
PullJosh
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Scratch 3.0

clear audio effects :: sound
set effect [echo v] to (20) :: sound
set effect [reverb v] to (50) :: sound
play sound [airhorn v]
play sound [spooky scary skeletons v]
play sound [evil laugh v]
forever
set effect [pan left/right v] to (([sin v] of ((timer) * (360))) * (100)) :: sound
end

3.0 is gonna be so much fun
CodeLegend
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500+ posts

Scratch 3.0

PullJosh wrote:

clear audio effects :: sound
set effect [echo v] to (20) :: sound
set effect [reverb v] to (50) :: sound
play sound [airhorn v]
play sound [spooky scary skeletons v]
play sound [evil laugh v]
forever
set effect [pan left/right v] to (([sin v] of ((timer) * (360))) * (100)) :: sound
end

3.0 is gonna be so much fun
Hopefully(?) this will replace

forever
change [color v] effect by (25)
end
chooper100
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch 3.0

Why would new sound effects replace color effects?
The ghost and brightness effect blocks are quite useful actually
PullJosh
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Scratch 3.0

chooper100 wrote:

Why would new sound effects replace color effects?
The ghost and brightness effect blocks are quite useful actually
I think CodeLegend is referring to the projects which are often made by new users which consist mainly of graphic effects (eg. forever: change color effect by 25, turn 15 degrees, change whirl effect by 25). Maybe sound effects can replace that.
getbent
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch 3.0

Scratch 3.0 is looking awesome so far, but the one thing that's irking me is how if you click a dropdown arrow when that menu is already open, it doesn't close it
CodeLegend
Scratcher
500+ posts

Scratch 3.0

PullJosh wrote:

chooper100 wrote:

Why would new sound effects replace color effects?
The ghost and brightness effect blocks are quite useful actually
I think CodeLegend is referring to the projects which are often made by new users which consist mainly of graphic effects (eg. forever: change color effect by 25, turn 15 degrees, change whirl effect by 25). Maybe sound effects can replace that.
Yeah.

Unfortunately, those projects might have both… *shudders*
dude341
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Scratch 3.0

technoboy10 wrote:

I'll just leave this here
MLG Scratch?

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