Tigerstar was an evil cat who destroyed many cats, both physically and mentally. One day, he attacked Scourge at the border. Scourge was then Tiny, and Tiny was then a kit. Tigerpaw attacked under the command of Thistleclaw, so two villains were created by Thistleclaw.
Thistleclaw is a cat who has no feelings, no ability to love, and only the wish for power, which makes him cold. The only thing warm about this cat is blood of the enemies he kills.
But, villains are not born, they are created.
I want to explore these cats and see who is really to blame.
First, Scourge. As a kit, Tiny was weak and abused by his siblings. One day, Ruby said that kits that weren't loved by the Twoleg Kits were thrown in the river. This terrified Tiny, and he ran into the forest. Of course the young kit made a, well, childish descision, but he was a child. Anyway, he ran into the woods, afraid of the Twolegs and his chances of getting thrown into a river. He met three cats at the border of Thunderclan, and Tigerpaw attacked him. Scourge, wounded and terrified, continued running into the city. The city was a place of murder and hunger, and was easy prey for the other starving cats. He was abused by so many animals, and was seen weak because of his collar. The strays saw him as a freeloader, a traitor, because he lives in the comfort of a house with free food. That made him a bigger target. Scourge needed to destroy the collar, and though he failed, his got a tooth lodged in his collar. The other cats believed he killed a dog, and they respected him, and followed him. He gained power from this, and became known as Scourge.
From this paraphrased information, I can clearly see that it is impossible to blame his evilness on on event. His abuse from his siblings, threat from his sister, attacked in one of his weakest moments, and the city's sanity stripping cats all led to him becoming an evil cat.
A personal opinion: Tiny had Scourge in him all along, and it didn't have to come out getting abused. Even Firestar has killer in him, for he almost killed Clawface. Graystripe has killer, he destroyed Darkstripe. (or fought him, it's been a while). My point is, every character has a chance of- may it be forever or for just a moment- of becoming a killer.
Okay, time for Tigerstar. I am a little blurry on his past, so I am probably going to mess up some. Tigerkit's father was the mighty leader Pinestar, who was respected by all cats. On his last life, when Tigerkit was a young kit, he left for a quieter life, deciding his work was done and he deserved a quieter life. Tigerkit was the weakest kit in the litter (Just like Scourge!!!!!!!!!), and as he grew up, he felt as if he had to be strong. He had to prove himself to every other cat, prove he was nothing like his father, the cat who quit without a hint of shame. Tigerkit(or paw I'm unsure of his age) was becoming desperate to become strong. Mapleshade saw her chance. She spoke in his mind, manipulating him, commanding him, telling him what to do to become strong. When he was given a mentor that wanted to make him strong, Tigerpaw approved. Training sessions we often violent and made Tigerpaw a bloody mess, but Thistleclaw, in the end, made his strong and resistant to the pain. Tigerstar thanks his mentor for making him strong. He attacked Tiny with no hesitation, perhaps in an attempt to prove himself or to channel his personal anger into a weak kit. I will also add that his father left to become a kittypet, so his hatred towards those cat is personal.
On my opinion, Tigerstar's life was rough, but his personality and Mapleshade- as well as his determination to prove himself- caused his pain. If he was more like Whitestorm, who accepted his genetics and only worked to be himself, Mapleshade wouldn't have found him and targeted him.
Lastly, Thistleclaw. This cat had a though: that to become the strongest clan, you must destroy the other clans. This is reasonable, but moving on. This opinion grew when his mate had a Shadowclan related death. His son was taken away from him, he was hated by Bluestar, his sister-in-law. On my opinion, Thistleclaw wanted to make his clan stronger. He worked hard to become strong. He didn't hesitate to kill his enemies. He was a good choice for deputy, but Bluestar was chosen again. But why? Bluestar should be grieving over the death of her kits, that suddenly got killed by a badger no one actually saw. Really? Not to remind you, Thistleclaw did blame Bluestar for Snowfur's death, which I think is realistic. She ran into the Thunderpath because of something Bluestar said. How come the fans think he was being unrealistic? Of course, he never cared for his mate, or was it because grieving-in his mind- made him weak. After all, Bluestar wasn't grieving that bad even though her children ‘were killed by a badger’. Maybe he only wanted to make himself stronger, so he could help his clan dominate. I think this makes him loyal. Thistleclaw DIED FIGHTING FOR HIS CLAN. Do fans miss that he's loyal? He wanted to make Thunderclan strong, and that would be easier by becoming leader.
I support Thistleclaw and wish fans would look at him through more perspectives. “He was evil because he didn't love Snowfur and yada yada yada”. I think he was trying to be strong and hide the fact he was grieving. I have been in that spot before, trying to hide your grief.
ANYWAY, I'm going to reply the vital scene.
A black kittypet ran into three cats on a border patrol, first spotted my Tigerpaw.
“Hey, intruder!” a huge dark tabby erupted out of the bushes and faced a tiny kit. He was followed by an elegant blue pelted she-cat and a powerfully built, spiky furred tom.
Thistclaw's tail lashed. “What are you doing on Thunderclan territory?”
Buefur's fur bristled. “Thistleclaw- he's just a kit! He doesn't know he's intruding!”
“That's your problem, Bluefur. You've always been soft, soft on kittypets and soft on kits,” Thistleclaw hissed.
Tigerpaw growled, eyes locked with the kit, his gaze merciless.
“What should be do with him?” Thistleclaw asked, coldness itself seeming to ring in his voice.
“I think he needs to be taught a lesson,” the huge apprentice replied viciously.
“Do it.”
Tigerpaw lunged at Tiny and attacked him, slashing across his chest and sending him flying across the clearing. Tigerpaw was with him in an instand, and ripped his neck, releasing the bell from his collar (which I think is purple but meh).
Thistleclaw watched through emotionless eyes as his apprentice destroyed the kittypet.
“Stop!” Bluefur yelled, standing between the bristling tabby and the bleeding black kit.
“You won't forget me,” Tigerpaw snarled as he walked away with the rest of his patrol.

Thistleclaw did not specifically say: “Attack the kittypet”.
Okay, some truth. I feel like Thistleclaw alot, and I understand his views. Tigerpaw also has some views and reasons I agree. Scourge did what he must to survive in the cruel city.
Who is to blame?
Mapleshade and Pinestar are the ones who deserve to be blamed for Tigerstar's evillness.
Ruby, Tigerpaw, and the city's residents are guilty of breaking Tiny.
Bluestar, and his own mind destroyed Thistleclaw.
Okay, so this is my argument. I am thankful that you read and hope that you can agree with some of my views. Every character should be looked at carefully.
Oh, by the way, if you want me to do some analyzing projects viewing more points, tell me!
-Pinerain

Not really a discussion, and even if it is, you can easily do this on the Warrior Cats official topic. Just as a question, how did Blustar distroy Thistleclaw?

It was Tigerpaw's choice tbh. I hate how people blame Thistleclaw for it. Yes, he TRAINED Tigerpaw to do that. However, TIGERPAW HIMSELF did it. It was NO ONE'S orders

Thistleclaw actually did tell Tigerpaw to attack Tiny. Thistleclaw also acted extremely predatorily towards Spottedpaw in Spottedleaf's heart. This behavior can be attributed to two things: Silverhawk in the Dark Forest, and extreme resentment towards Bluefur for contributing to his mate's death. HOWEVER, Snow's death wasn't really Blue's fault, nobody was forcing him to train in the Dark Forest (in fact, Spotted repeatedly tells him NOT to), and he really didn't have to push Tiger to those levels of aggression. In the end, Thistleclaw made his choices, as did Tiger and Scourge. Their “evilness” can't really be blamed on anybody but themselves.

Also, has anybody noticed that Tigerstar is basically godmodded? Like, he's described as physically huge (which is considered an attractive trait in the Warriors universe), unusually strong, fast, good at fighting, good with words, and extremely smart? Why??

That’s confusing. When you think about it, they are kinda all linked in the blame. Thistle obliged Tiger, who fought scourge. But then, scourge was encouraged by two legs, so thistle and tow-legs are to blame.

Honestly, it seems like Scourge did what he did out of fear. He saw that if he's merciless, he's respected. Then he got a chance to get back at Tigerstar. Thistleclaw seemed to be ambitious like Tigerstar, though he saw a different way to do it. Having been taught these things, Tigerstar believed someone with his ideas would make a better leader than Bluestar. He was taught that pain is a better punishment than a warning, thus the whole “kill the half-Clan” thing. So it's a chain, but unlike what most think, it was Sun/Pinestar who started it. Don't remember which, whoever made Thistleclaw Tigerstar's mentor. If Tigerstar had a different mentor, things would turn out differently.

jji10 wrote:

Not really a discussion, and even if it is, you can easily do this on the Warrior Cats official topic. Just as a question, how did Blustar distroy Thistleclaw?

She prevented him from becoming deputy by giving her kits to Oakheart.

Actually Thistleclaw did know how to love, he offered to act as bluestar's kits father, and his mate was snowfur.

all of them added to it imao