f1lip wrote:

No support, some computers might not be able to compress the project because some computers upload as .7zip.

What do you mean by “some computers upload as .7zip”…?
The Scratch 2.0 file format uses ZIP for compression.
Flash almost definitely doesn't get the operating system to [de]compress .zip or .tar.xz, and if Flash does have facilities for .zip or .tar.xz it'll be implemented consistently on any platform. (Afaik Scratch currently implements ZIP by itself.)

BookOwl wrote:

Semi-support since Windows computers can't unpack these and that would make block hacking harder.

You can install xz and tar

Jonathan50 wrote:

BookOwl wrote:

Semi-support since Windows computers can't unpack these and that would make block hacking harder.

You can install xz and tar

What if their parents won't let them install anything on their computer?

Also, I have a new, major reason why it shouldn't be added to Scratch 2. It will break phosphorus.

BookOwl wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

BookOwl wrote:

Semi-support since Windows computers can't unpack these and that would make block hacking harder.

You can install xz and tar

What if their parents won't let them install anything on their computer?

Also, I have a new, major reason why it shouldn't be added to Scratch 2. It will break phosphorus.

What if their parents won't let them install anything on their computer?

They shouldn't be using the computer then. Usually you are allowed to install anything, and if not, then it's not the right moment to hack JSON either. (for example in school or for little kids)

24691357 wrote:

BookOwl wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

BookOwl wrote:

Semi-support since Windows computers can't unpack these and that would make block hacking harder.

You can install xz and tar

What if their parents won't let them install anything on their computer?

Also, I have a new, major reason why it shouldn't be added to Scratch 2. It will break phosphorus.

What if their parents won't let them install anything on their computer?

They shouldn't be using the computer then. Usually you are allowed to install anything, and if not, then it's not the right moment to hack JSON either. (for example in school or for little kids)

Unless you're using a shared computer where you aren't an admin or you have parental controls/family safety enabled

Support, Linux (or that penguin thing) supports tar.xz files, but on windows we can install it!

Sheep_maker wrote:

24691357 wrote:

BookOwl wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

BookOwl wrote:

Semi-support since Windows computers can't unpack these and that would make block hacking harder.

You can install xz and tar

What if their parents won't let them install anything on their computer?

Also, I have a new, major reason why it shouldn't be added to Scratch 2. It will break phosphorus.

What if their parents won't let them install anything on their computer?

They shouldn't be using the computer then. Usually you are allowed to install anything, and if not, then it's not the right moment to hack JSON either. (for example in school or for little kids)

Unless you're using a shared computer where you aren't an admin or you have parental controls/family safety enabled

Then they should allow to download a program like 7-zip, assuming that only the admin will see how he types the password.

24691357 wrote:

Unless you're using a shared computer where you aren't an admin or you have parental controls/family safety enabled

Then they should allow to download a program like 7-zip, assuming that only the admin will see how he types the password.
7-zip comes default with windows.

Sigton

Sigton wrote:

24691357 wrote:

Unless you're using a shared computer where you aren't an admin or you have parental controls/family safety enabled

Then they should allow to download a program like 7-zip, assuming that only the admin will see how he types the password.
7-zip comes default with windows.

Sigton

It doesn't. If your Windows came with 7-Zip, then it was modified.

dude341 wrote:

Sigton wrote:

24691357 wrote:

Unless you're using a shared computer where you aren't an admin or you have parental controls/family safety enabled

Then they should allow to download a program like 7-zip, assuming that only the admin will see how he types the password.
7-zip comes default with windows.

Sigton

It doesn't. If your Windows came with 7-Zip, then it was modified.
Mine did… (and I'm sure it wasn't modified). All the school computers have 7-zip, and I seriously doubt they would've bothered installing it since it is barely ever used. Though I found that using 7-zip manager you can access any file on the computer, even the ones that the teachers don't let you access [/offtopic]

Anyway, I'm sure that 7-zip is default installed…

Sigton

Sigton wrote:

dude341 wrote:

It doesn't. If your Windows came with 7-Zip, then it was modified.

Mine did… (and I'm sure it wasn't modified). All the school computers have 7-zip, and I seriously doubt they would've bothered installing it since it is barely ever used. Though I found that using 7-zip manager you can access any file on the computer, even the ones that the teachers don't let you access [/offtopic]

Anyway, I'm sure that 7-zip is default installed…

Sigton

Windows doesn't come with 7-zip. Perhaps your computer manufacturer installed it?

Sigton wrote:

dude341 wrote:

Sigton wrote:

24691357 wrote:

Unless you're using a shared computer where you aren't an admin or you have parental controls/family safety enabled

Then they should allow to download a program like 7-zip, assuming that only the admin will see how he types the password.
7-zip comes default with windows.

Sigton

It doesn't. If your Windows came with 7-Zip, then it was modified.

Mine did… (and I'm sure it wasn't modified). All the school computers have 7-zip, and I seriously doubt they would've bothered installing it since it is barely ever used. Though I found that using 7-zip manager you can access any file on the computer, even the ones that the teachers don't let you access [/offtopic]

Anyway, I'm sure that 7-zip is default installed…

Sigton

No, those computers are modified. My Windows does not come with 7-zip, and it was a fresh install.

Jonathan50 wrote:

Windows doesn't come with 7-zip. Perhaps your computer manufacturer installed it?

Huh. Must've…

Sigton

Sigton wrote:

dude341 wrote:

Sigton wrote:

24691357 wrote:

Unless you're using a shared computer where you aren't an admin or you have parental controls/family safety enabled

Then they should allow to download a program like 7-zip, assuming that only the admin will see how he types the password.
7-zip comes default with windows.

Sigton

It doesn't. If your Windows came with 7-Zip, then it was modified.

Mine did… (and I'm sure it wasn't modified). All the school computers have 7-zip, and I seriously doubt they would've bothered installing it since it is barely ever used. Though I found that using 7-zip manager you can access any file on the computer, even the ones that the teachers don't let you access [/offtopic]

Anyway, I'm sure that 7-zip is default installed…

Sigton
School computers in my class come with a lot of bloatware that are programs and fonts. These include Scratch and Audacity, Copper Black, etc… . One of my mum's computers have none of these, and it doesn't include 7-zip. Both are Windows XP. There is no 7-zip in Windows 8 computer either.

24691357 wrote:

School computers in my class come with a lot of bloatware that are programs and fonts. These include Scratch and Audacity, Copper Black, etc… . One of my mum's computers have none of these, and it doesn't include 7-zip. Both are Windows XP. There is no 7-zip in Windows 8 computer either.

Weird.

Sigton

Schools usually install a bunch of stuff. My school comps have 7zip but my home doesn't.

-stache- wrote:

Znapi wrote:

snip

Well, why not store assets compressed with xz compression…
BTW I'd edit the OP but I'm a new scratcher

Actually, this would be a valid suggestion unlike what I told you before. I looked into the way Scratch serves and uploads assets (SVGs in particular) and the JSONs (turns out each sprite gets their own .json), and they are transferred uncompressed, despite Flash having built-in support for compression/decompression. Now I'm guessing that they are also stored uncompressed, unlike what I thought earlier. Unless the ST has a good reason to store and transfer the assets without compression, I'd be all for adding compression to assets.

Bump. Not sure how this will turn out because of the entirely new version of Scratch though.

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