MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

comp09 wrote:

Two OS X versions in, and it's still running at the same speed:


Isn't it beautiful?

I should probably update Java properly…

hiccup01 wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

If you wanted to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux just don't use wandoge using Apple hardware?
Personally Mac OS X works great for 95% of the things I want to do and if I want do anything else I have a Debian virtual machine & a PCBSD virtual machine.

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

hiccup01 wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

If you wanted to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux just don't use wandoge using Apple hardware?
Personally Mac OS X works great for 95% of the things I want to do and if I want do anything else I have a Debian virtual machine & a PCBSD virtual machine.

I don't think you understood my question. I'm saying apple hardware is so ridiculously overpriced that the only reason you'd ever want to buy a Mac is for OSX.

IcyCoder wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

hiccup01 wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

If you wanted to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux just don't use wandoge using Apple hardware?
Personally Mac OS X works great for 95% of the things I want to do and if I want do anything else I have a Debian virtual machine & a PCBSD virtual machine.

I don't think you understood my question. I'm saying apple hardware is so ridiculously overpriced that the only reason you'd ever want to buy a Mac is for OSX.

They are expensive but they have (not too much to be honest) lowered the costs of their products and made cheaper alternatives. But you got to be real they are a company and people are still buying their products even at higher costs. If Microsoft, HP, Dell, etc could do that they would trust me.

Firedrake969 wrote:

IcyCoder wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

hiccup01 wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

If you wanted to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux just don't use wandoge using Apple hardware?
Personally Mac OS X works great for 95% of the things I want to do and if I want do anything else I have a Debian virtual machine & a PCBSD virtual machine.

I don't think you understood my question. I'm saying apple hardware is so ridiculously overpriced that the only reason you'd ever want to buy a Mac is for OSX.

They are expensive but they have (not too much to be honest) lowered the costs of their products and made cheaper alternatives. But you got to be real they are a company and people are still buying their products even at higher costs. If Microsoft, HP, Dell, etc could do that they would trust me.

The question is fewer sales at more money per sale or more sales at less money per sale?
Microsoft (and its corresponding hardware producers) probably use the latter strategy since most of the business world uses Windows, not OS X.

They're still objectively overpriced for the same hardware.
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook
256GB SSD, up to 2.2 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 515, $1300

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop/pd?oc=fncwsbb0013b&model_id=inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop
256GB SSD, up to 2.8 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 520, $750

Same specs (better in the Dell's case!) but Apple's Macbook is $550 more.

helloandgoodbye9 wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

IcyCoder wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

hiccup01 wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

If you wanted to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux just don't use wandoge using Apple hardware?
Personally Mac OS X works great for 95% of the things I want to do and if I want do anything else I have a Debian virtual machine & a PCBSD virtual machine.

I don't think you understood my question. I'm saying apple hardware is so ridiculously overpriced that the only reason you'd ever want to buy a Mac is for OSX.

They are expensive but they have (not too much to be honest) lowered the costs of their products and made cheaper alternatives. But you got to be real they are a company and people are still buying their products even at higher costs. If Microsoft, HP, Dell, etc could do that they would trust me.

The question is fewer sales at more money per sale or more sales at less money per sale?
Microsoft (and its corresponding hardware producers) probably use the latter strategy since most of the business world uses Windows, not OS X.

They're still objectively overpriced for the same hardware.
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook
256GB SSD, up to 2.2 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 515, $1300

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop/pd?oc=fncwsbb0013b&model_id=inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop
256GB SSD, up to 2.8 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 520, $750

Same specs (better in the Dell's case!) but Apple's Macbook is $550 more.

Yes, but you have apple support, an easy to use OS, and less viruses (hundreds compared to thousands, if optimistic.)

helloandgoodbye9 wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

IcyCoder wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

hiccup01 wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

If you wanted to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux just don't use wandoge using Apple hardware?
Personally Mac OS X works great for 95% of the things I want to do and if I want do anything else I have a Debian virtual machine & a PCBSD virtual machine.

I don't think you understood my question. I'm saying apple hardware is so ridiculously overpriced that the only reason you'd ever want to buy a Mac is for OSX.

They are expensive but they have (not too much to be honest) lowered the costs of their products and made cheaper alternatives. But you got to be real they are a company and people are still buying their products even at higher costs. If Microsoft, HP, Dell, etc could do that they would trust me.

The question is fewer sales at more money per sale or more sales at less money per sale?
Microsoft (and its corresponding hardware producers) probably use the latter strategy since most of the business world uses Windows, not OS X.

They're still objectively overpriced for the same hardware.
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook
256GB SSD, up to 2.2 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 515, $1300

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop/pd?oc=fncwsbb0013b&model_id=inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop
256GB SSD, up to 2.8 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 520, $750

Same specs (better in the Dell's case!) but Apple's Macbook is $550 more.

Yes, but you have apple support, an easy to use OS, and less viruses (hundreds compared to thousands, if optimistic.)

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

(and what about things like that nasty Xcode virus?)

liam48D wrote:

Your monitor only redraws 30 times a second..? That's kind of terrible.. Here's mine:

BookOwl wrote:

helloandgoodbye9 wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

IcyCoder wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

hiccup01 wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

If you wanted to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux just don't use wandoge using Apple hardware?
Personally Mac OS X works great for 95% of the things I want to do and if I want do anything else I have a Debian virtual machine & a PCBSD virtual machine.

I don't think you understood my question. I'm saying apple hardware is so ridiculously overpriced that the only reason you'd ever want to buy a Mac is for OSX.

They are expensive but they have (not too much to be honest) lowered the costs of their products and made cheaper alternatives. But you got to be real they are a company and people are still buying their products even at higher costs. If Microsoft, HP, Dell, etc could do that they would trust me.

The question is fewer sales at more money per sale or more sales at less money per sale?
Microsoft (and its corresponding hardware producers) probably use the latter strategy since most of the business world uses Windows, not OS X.

They're still objectively overpriced for the same hardware.
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook
256GB SSD, up to 2.2 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 515, $1300

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop/pd?oc=fncwsbb0013b&model_id=inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop
256GB SSD, up to 2.8 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 520, $750

Same specs (better in the Dell's case!) but Apple's Macbook is $550 more.

Yes, but you have apple support, an easy to use OS, and less viruses (hundreds compared to thousands, if optimistic.)

There's a large enough community using Linux that you can get pretty good support for free online just by googling
Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora or very easy to use, IMO
Linux has practically 0 viruses

• Custom build computer with linux
  
• Mac
  
• Windows computer
  
• School computer
  

helloandgoodbye9 wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

IcyCoder wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

hiccup01 wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

If you wanted to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux just don't use wandoge using Apple hardware?
Personally Mac OS X works great for 95% of the things I want to do and if I want do anything else I have a Debian virtual machine & a PCBSD virtual machine.

I don't think you understood my question. I'm saying apple hardware is so ridiculously overpriced that the only reason you'd ever want to buy a Mac is for OSX.

They are expensive but they have (not too much to be honest) lowered the costs of their products and made cheaper alternatives. But you got to be real they are a company and people are still buying their products even at higher costs. If Microsoft, HP, Dell, etc could do that they would trust me.

The question is fewer sales at more money per sale or more sales at less money per sale?
Microsoft (and its corresponding hardware producers) probably use the latter strategy since most of the business world uses Windows, not OS X.

They're still objectively overpriced for the same hardware.
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook
256GB SSD, up to 2.2 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 515, $1300

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop/pd?oc=fncwsbb0013b&model_id=inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop
256GB SSD, up to 2.8 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 520, $750

Same specs (better in the Dell's case!) but Apple's Macbook is $550 more.

Yes, but you have terrible tech support, an awfully limiting and terrible OS, and more security vulnerabilities

__init__ wrote:

helloandgoodbye9 wrote:

Firedrake969 wrote:

IcyCoder wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

hiccup01 wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

comp09 wrote:

Dylan5797 wrote:

If I don't like Windows, at least I can flash an OS I like onto the machine.
Unlike Apple which forces OSX upon you

Wrong: there's Bootcamp to run Windows (officially supported by Apple) and it isn't difficult to get Linux running.

Honestly why would you buy a mac just to run windows or linux on it though?
(for the same price you could buy/build something with much better specs)

If you wanted to dual boot Mac OS X and Linux just don't use wandoge using Apple hardware?
Personally Mac OS X works great for 95% of the things I want to do and if I want do anything else I have a Debian virtual machine & a PCBSD virtual machine.

I don't think you understood my question. I'm saying apple hardware is so ridiculously overpriced that the only reason you'd ever want to buy a Mac is for OSX.

They are expensive but they have (not too much to be honest) lowered the costs of their products and made cheaper alternatives. But you got to be real they are a company and people are still buying their products even at higher costs. If Microsoft, HP, Dell, etc could do that they would trust me.

The question is fewer sales at more money per sale or more sales at less money per sale?
Microsoft (and its corresponding hardware producers) probably use the latter strategy since most of the business world uses Windows, not OS X.

They're still objectively overpriced for the same hardware.
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook
256GB SSD, up to 2.2 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 515, $1300

http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop/pd?oc=fncwsbb0013b&model_id=inspiron-15-7569-2-in-1-laptop
256GB SSD, up to 2.8 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Graphics 520, $750

Same specs (better in the Dell's case!) but Apple's Macbook is $550 more.

Yes, but you have terrible tech support, an awfully limiting and terrible OS, and more security vulnerabilities

MAc ROCKS!!!

comp09 wrote:

it depended on the user deliberately ignoring the untrusted developer warnings.

birdoftheday wrote:

It seems like this discussion has degenerated into people saying Windows is the best because it is

WooHooBoy wrote:

birdoftheday wrote:

It seems like this discussion has degenerated into people saying OS X is the best because it is

I agree! i'm sorry

birdoftheday wrote:

It seems like this discussion has shown people why OSX is the superior operating system.

NickyNouse wrote:

birdoftheday wrote:

It seems like this discussion has shown people why OSX is the superior operating system.

Yeah, these conversations tend to devolve into ad-hominem attacks. People have really strong personal opinions about this kind of stuff (whether or not they have evidence to back them up)