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birdoftheday
Scratcher
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It's Time To See The Good In The Most Unique Of All.

Unfollowing this topic as it has essentially become offtopic bashing Matoran by repeating the same arguments over and over.
jokebookservice1
Scratcher
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It's Time To See The Good In The Most Unique Of All.

I will not give an opinion until the sexism is removed from the OP

They are cat projects, but no argument you mentioned showed they were in any way “girly”
TheCad1
Scratcher
75 posts

It's Time To See The Good In The Most Unique Of All.

Gamation wrote:

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

Instead of trying to discourage non-programming content by blocking them from the front page, perhaps Scratch should have a firm “only programming” rule. All other content shall be unshared. Do you think Warrior role-plays would be allowed on Stack Overflow? Why would Scratch allow them?

Example (from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18292/what-are-some-good-ssh-servers-for-windows ):
closed as off topic by Tim Post Mres♦ Aug 17 '11 at 3:10

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I think this is a little overboard. Sorry

BUT: If someone coded a Scratch Mod that would allow you to only see programming projects, the ST would allow that, you could install the mod, and, well, problem solved.

I could make a mod like that if you gave me a few months.
jokebookservice1
Scratcher
1000+ posts

It's Time To See The Good In The Most Unique Of All.

TheCad1 wrote:

Gamation wrote:

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

Instead of trying to discourage non-programming content by blocking them from the front page, perhaps Scratch should have a firm “only programming” rule. All other content shall be unshared. Do you think Warrior role-plays would be allowed on Stack Overflow? Why would Scratch allow them?

Example (from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18292/what-are-some-good-ssh-servers-for-windows ):
closed as off topic by Tim Post Mres♦ Aug 17 '11 at 3:10

Questions Projects on Stack Overflow Scratch are expected to relate to programming within the scope defined by the community. Consider editing the question project or leaving comments for improvement if you believe the question project can be reworded changed to fit within the scope. Read more about reopening questions resharing projects here.
If this question project can be reworded changed to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question project.


I think this is a little overboard. Sorry

BUT: If someone coded a Scratch Mod that would allow you to only see programming projects, the ST would allow that, you could install the mod, and, well, problem solved.

I could make a mod like that if you gave me a few months.
I don't understand how that works? A mod is changing Scratch's source code. Do you mean a userscript, and how would it tell if it is a coding project?
Gamation
Scratcher
100+ posts

It's Time To See The Good In The Most Unique Of All.

TheCad1 wrote:

Gamation wrote:

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

Instead of trying to discourage non-programming content by blocking them from the front page, perhaps Scratch should have a firm “only programming” rule. All other content shall be unshared. Do you think Warrior role-plays would be allowed on Stack Overflow? Why would Scratch allow them?

Example (from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18292/what-are-some-good-ssh-servers-for-windows ):
closed as off topic by Tim Post Mres♦ Aug 17 '11 at 3:10

Questions Projects on Stack Overflow Scratch are expected to relate to programming within the scope defined by the community. Consider editing the question project or leaving comments for improvement if you believe the question project can be reworded changed to fit within the scope. Read more about reopening questions resharing projects here.
If this question project can be reworded changed to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question project.


I think this is a little overboard. Sorry

BUT: If someone coded a Scratch Mod that would allow you to only see programming projects, the ST would allow that, you could install the mod, and, well, problem solved.

I could make a mod like that if you gave me a few months.

Sounds kewl.
PrincessPanda_test_
Scratcher
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It's Time To See The Good In The Most Unique Of All.

Lythium wrote:

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

helloandgoodbye9 wrote:

TheCad1 wrote:

My main point is that Scratch was made for kids and teens to learn coding. Scratch isn't Scratch when coding is being replaced with drawings. Yes, all projects have code, but Scratch should see more projects with a good amount of coding so people can learn from each other and even get ideas. But that can't happen like it did way back when Scratch started when all there is to see on the front page is cat drawings and whatever else drawings there may be.
Ok, define good.
I would say that “good” means that the project creator has an interest in programming.
Then 95% of my projects, including my best Sonic fanart, would be “bad”.
This is exactly why CMatoran decided to go all extremist with his suggestions. It's because people aren't programming, they're making art projects. You guys need to understand that Scratch should be used for programming. It's fine if you share an arty project every now and then, but 95 percent of your profile being art is bad.
*facepalm*
Abstract-
Scratcher
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It's Time To See The Good In The Most Unique Of All.

Lythium wrote:

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

helloandgoodbye9 wrote:

TheCad1 wrote:

My main point is that Scratch was made for kids and teens to learn coding. Scratch isn't Scratch when coding is being replaced with drawings. Yes, all projects have code, but Scratch should see more projects with a good amount of coding so people can learn from each other and even get ideas. But that can't happen like it did way back when Scratch started when all there is to see on the front page is cat drawings and whatever else drawings there may be.
Ok, define good.
I would say that “good” means that the project creator has an interest in programming.
Then 95% of my projects, including my best Sonic fanart, would be “bad”.
This is exactly why CMatoran decided to go all extremist with his suggestions. It's because people aren't programming, they're making art projects. You guys need to understand that Scratch should be used for programming. It's fine if you share an arty project every now and then, but 95 percent of your profile being art is bad.
95 percent is over 50 percent, so does that mean they're a bad Scratcher in whole?


Lythium
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Animation is art. Changing costumes are scripts. What tells me that 90% of art projects are not programmed?! I mean last I checked at least they had a hat and some looks blocks.

Oh. My. God.

That argument is so cringeworthy and horrible. Why did you use it!??


Based on your logic, I am a professional programmer, because my project uses this block:
when green flag clicked

PROGRAMMING IS NOT JUST SIMPLY USING A COUPLE OF SIMPLE BLOCKS.

When people say programming, they mean

OP wrote:

Yes, all projects have code, but Scratch should see more projects with a good amount of coding so people can learn from each other and even get ideas.

There's nothing against AE studios which have no real purpose. Sounds just like the projects you guys are talking about. If you're either trying to get redemption on AE studios, or can't appreciate a full, unique community.
Who said anything about AE?

There's NOTHING that says in the CG that art projects aren't allowed; unless clearly against the CG, etc., etc.
When did I ever say that art is against the CGs? In fact, I specifically stated in my earlier posts that art is okay, as long as there isn't too much of it.

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

*facepalm*
Thank you. That post is extremely constructive, and we absolutely get the point you're trying to make.
</sarcasm>

Abstract- wrote:

95 percent is over 50 percent, so does that mean they're a bad Scratcher in whole?
No. It just means that they should spend some time actually using Scratch for it's intended purpose.

Honestly, I'm just sad that people are treating Scratch like an art site, and then arguing against people who want Scratch to fulfill the reason it was made.

Last edited by Lythium (May 30, 2016 13:43:41)

Abstract-
Scratcher
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It's Time To See The Good In The Most Unique Of All.

Lythium wrote:

No. It just means that they should spend some time actually using Scratch for it's intended purpose.

Honestly, I'm just sad that people are treating Scratch like an art site, and then arguing against people who want Scratch to fulfill the reason it was made.
Scratch's real purpose is to code, yes, and to learn other things. Collaboration, How to give construcive feedback. If you guys want a straight out programming expirience mixed with a bunch of science and math and other stuff, I can recomend you a site. Oh, I'lll tell you this, the rules on that site are more strict, an I saw them, and I almost just, stopped using the site the moment I started.
Lythium
Scratcher
1000+ posts

It's Time To See The Good In The Most Unique Of All.

Abstract- wrote:

Lythium wrote:

No. It just means that they should spend some time actually using Scratch for it's intended purpose.

Honestly, I'm just sad that people are treating Scratch like an art site, and then arguing against people who want Scratch to fulfill the reason it was made.
Scratch's real purpose is to code, yes, and to learn other things. Collaboration, How to give construcive feedback. If you guys want a straight out programming expirience mixed with a bunch of science and math and other stuff, I can recomend you a site. Oh, I'lll tell you this, the rules on that site are more strict, an I saw them, and I almost just, stopped using the site the moment I started.
Scratch's real purpose isn't to become a child friendly version of DeviantArt. Like you said:
Scratch's real purpose is to code, and to learn other things. Collaboration, How to give constructive feedback.

I don't see
become an art site
in there.
Paddle2See
Scratch Team
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