goldfish678 wrote:

I have no idea. I was trying to sign in like a million times, but eventually I got this weird XML error thing. When I tried to go on any other page of the website, it said down for maintenance.

cars_456 wrote:

Just a few minutes ago, it gave me an intense 10 minute long error 404. Then the servers were literally recovered quickly. Was this a maintenance update? Was it a scam? or was scratch hacked but then reprotected?

cars_456 wrote:

I think it was scam

Jonathan50 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

I think it was scam

…scam?

Dylan5797 wrote:

It sounds like a database server had crashed, because staging.scratch.mit.edu gave a backend read error, indicating that an internal request timed out.


Not a scam.

cars_456 wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

I think it was scam

…scam?

If you want to know what scam is, its just when a program gets popular or overused, it is hacked. Luckily many programs have a hackblocker, like Xbox and scratch. This blocks hacking the program, but does not block scams. Need a scamblocker too…

scratchyone wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

I think it was scam

…scam?

If you want to know what scam is, its just when a program gets popular or overused, it is hacked. Luckily many programs have a hackblocker, like Xbox and scratch. This blocks hacking the program, but does not block scams. Need a scamblocker too…

A scam means to “cheat or defraud”. It has nothing to do with hacking.

cars_456 wrote:

scratchyone wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

I think it was scam

…scam?

If you want to know what scam is, its just when a program gets popular or overused, it is hacked. Luckily many programs have a hackblocker, like Xbox and scratch. This blocks hacking the program, but does not block scams. Need a scamblocker too…

A scam means to “cheat or defraud”. It has nothing to do with hacking.

I meant that it is basically the sideattempt to hack a program. It is below hack by around 10.

• There is no such thing as a “hackblocker”. Server-end frameworks usually handle all the server vulnerabilities. Scratch uses Django. If a certain vulnerability is not accounted for, you have to write your own code to block attackers trying to use that vulnerability. One common one is SQL injection.
  
• Nobody can really just hack a site and cause it to consistently return mixed 404, 500 and 503 errors, it sounds like a service within the server network crashed, which would not be accessible to hackers and machines outside the MIT network.
  
• There is really no difference between the server returning a scam, or anything else. You really do need to hack a server to get it to behave the way you want it to. If you want it to return modified pages, you have to hack it. If you want it to return a scam, you also have to hack it.
  
• A 404 error is generally not a scam. A scam is usually a dishonest scheme; for example, fake antivirus software saying you have malware when you don't actually, and trying to get you to pay to remove it.
  
• Scratch does not rely on one server running one program, it's more like a bunch of clusters of servers, each cluster running server software specifically programmed for what job the cluster is doing. Some examples are SQL servers, web servers, mail servers, FTP servers, database servers.
  
• With the mix of 404, 500, and 503 errors, it sounds like the downtime was caused by a database or sql server request timeout, meaning that one or more crashed. The fact that you see the 404 error means that nothing major happened to the scratch web servers.
  
• If something “caused massive damage”, scratch would probably wouldn't be online right now.
  
• If the servers were down for maintenance or a reboot, the errors would be strictly 503
  

Dylan5797 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

scratchyone wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

I think it was scam

…scam?

If you want to know what scam is, its just when a program gets popular or overused, it is hacked. Luckily many programs have a hackblocker, like Xbox and scratch. This blocks hacking the program, but does not block scams. Need a scamblocker too…

A scam means to “cheat or defraud”. It has nothing to do with hacking.

I meant that it is basically the sideattempt to hack a program. It is below hack by around 10.

404 errors are nothing big. It just means that the file was not found–or failed to be found on the server. If this was a hack, it probably would do more than cause the CDN servers to fail to sync with the actual scratch servers. Also, a few more things:

• There is no such thing as a “hackblocker”. Server-end frameworks usually handle all the server vulnerabilities. Scratch uses Django. If a certain vulnerability is not accounted for, you have to write your own code to block attackers trying to use that vulnerability. One common one is SQL injection.
  
• Nobody can really just hack a site and cause it to consistently return mixed 404, 500 and 503 errors, it sounds like a service within the server network crashed, which would not be accessible to hackers and machines outside the MIT network.
  
• There is really no difference between the server returning a scam, or anything else. You really do need to hack a server to get it to behave the way you want it to. If you want it to return modified pages, you have to hack it. If you want it to return a scam, you also have to hack it.
  
• A 404 error is generally not a scam. A scam is usually a dishonest scheme; for example, fake antivirus software saying you have malware when you don't actually, and trying to get you to pay to remove it.
  
• Scratch does not rely on one server running one program, it's more like a bunch of clusters of servers, each cluster running server software specifically programmed for what job the cluster is doing. Some examples are SQL servers, web servers, mail servers, FTP servers, database servers.
  
• With the mix of 404, 500, and 503 errors, it sounds like the downtime was caused by a database or sql server request timeout, meaning that one or more crashed. The fact that you see the 404 error means that nothing major happened to the scratch web servers.
  
• If something “caused massive damage”, scratch would probably wouldn't be online right now.
  
• If the servers were down for maintenance or a reboot, the errors would be strictly 503
  

I hope this list narrows down your issues.

cars_456 wrote:

By hackblocker, i mean parts of the server that do not allow hacks to infiltrate.

comp09 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

By hackblocker, i mean parts of the server that do not allow hacks to infiltrate.

Have you been watching too many movies?

cars_456 wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

I think it was scam

…scam?

If you want to know what scam is, its just when a program gets popular or overused, it is hacked. Luckily many programs have a hackblocker, like Xbox and scratch. This blocks hacking the program, but does not block scams. Need a scamblocker too…

comp09 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

By hackblocker, i mean parts of the server that do not allow hacks to infiltrate.

Have you been watching too many movies?

comp09 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

By hackblocker, i mean parts of the server that do not allow hacks to infiltrate.

Have you been watching too many movies?

Jonathan50 wrote:

comp09 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

By hackblocker, i mean parts of the server that do not allow hacks to infiltrate.

Have you been watching too many movies?

that video
wat
“IP Address is being tracked” beep beep beep
xD

Jonathan50 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

I think it was scam

…scam?

If you want to know what scam is, its just when a program gets popular or overused, it is hacked. Luckily many programs have a hackblocker, like Xbox and scratch. This blocks hacking the program, but does not block scams. Need a scamblocker too…

Scam means cheating or fraud. E.g “get these totally real free xbox game codes!!1! no viruses included!” is probably a scam, or “you are our 1,000,000,000,000,000,000th visitor! click here to get ten free apple tvs or thirty free ipad minis!”.
This isn't related to ‘hacking’ or cracking.
There isn't a such thing as a ‘hackblocker’…

TheMonsterOfTheDeep wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

comp09 wrote:

cars_456 wrote:

By hackblocker, i mean parts of the server that do not allow hacks to infiltrate.

Have you been watching too many movies?

that video
wat
“IP Address is being tracked” beep beep beep
xD

I particularly like “start counterstrike” and the “cybernuke”