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My school has the cheap Chromebooks. In the library, we have new iMac's they got at the beginning of the year. I'm in 8th grade now, but when I was in 6th grade, we had really old MacBook's that were running OS 10.4.1 and in the library, we have iMac's running the same. They improved the computers this year. I think they upgrade, then wait a long time and then upgrade again and so on.
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CatsUnited wrote:

epicanna27 wrote:

I told someone today I wanted to start a petition to either unblock all other games or get Coolmath blocked with them, because it's the same thing. An ad-infested non-educational game site. Schools are always saying you can say anything on the internet even if it's not true, yet they don't block a game site claiming to be math but not being math.

I checked out coolifiedgames.com, their site for “games without math” and it's exactly the same thing.
Um… My school says “to say something appropiate and be honest”
What?
Okay, what I meant was that school are always saying that on the internet, it is easy to lie. A person could say they are Adele when really they are a 12-year-old kid sitting at a computer screen. Coolmath is doing this by claiming to be math and not actually being math.
I think it would be fun to make some teachers play Coolmath for 30 minutes. Then, it would finally be blocked along with all those other game sites.
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goldfish678 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

(we have to use IE, teachers can use any browser)
Wait a second, you're saying that the teachers can use any browser?! That's so unfair. At my school, nobody even notices (except for me) that IE is a horrible ripoff browser that is vulnerable enough to crash your computer. Not even the teachers think to install any other browser. I don't get it. But seriously, the teachers? They're seriously the ones that get to use any browser? I don't think the teachers really even care about what browser they're using.

CatsUnited wrote:

> Wikipedia because we're supposed to use World Book Web.
Yeah, our school encourages World Book Web too. I, personally, think that sure, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS may like World Book Web, but what about US? Do WE look like we want to use World Book Web? For most of us, I'm pretty sure the answer would be no, I'd much rather like it if you unblocked Wikipedia which is a much better source that we're all familiar with, end of story. But of course, THEY don't want to listen to our opinions on any of THAT. Geez, they could at least give us some input about what browser we want…

But people can go in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the facts not true.
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lollypop730 wrote:

goldfish678 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

(we have to use IE, teachers can use any browser)
Wait a second, you're saying that the teachers can use any browser?! That's so unfair. At my school, nobody even notices (except for me) that IE is a horrible ripoff browser that is vulnerable enough to crash your computer. Not even the teachers think to install any other browser. I don't get it. But seriously, the teachers? They're seriously the ones that get to use any browser? I don't think the teachers really even care about what browser they're using.

CatsUnited wrote:

> Wikipedia because we're supposed to use World Book Web.
Yeah, our school encourages World Book Web too. I, personally, think that sure, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS may like World Book Web, but what about US? Do WE look like we want to use World Book Web? For most of us, I'm pretty sure the answer would be no, I'd much rather like it if you unblocked Wikipedia which is a much better source that we're all familiar with, end of story. But of course, THEY don't want to listen to our opinions on any of THAT. Geez, they could at least give us some input about what browser we want…

But people can go in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the facts not true.
That point doesn't hold because people can do in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the false facts actually true.

Teachers think that you can trust personal sites more than Wikipedia, but this ISN'T TRUE!
On a personal site, you can post what you want even if it's incorrect.
On Wikipedia, at least there are hundreds of people out there to fix your mistakes.
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CatsUnited wrote:

The only time we had to use a browser other than IE was when we went onto code.org for the Hour of Code.

For me, it was soooooooooooo easy because of Scratch. I did find a

countfromcounter1to200by1end

Which was similar to Snap! 's
fori=1to200end
Yeah, I went to code.org for hour of code. It was horribly easy and then everything was like it was so different from Scratch I couldn't figure out how to do anything?!
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epicanna27 wrote:

lollypop730 wrote:

goldfish678 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

(we have to use IE, teachers can use any browser)
Wait a second, you're saying that the teachers can use any browser?! That's so unfair. At my school, nobody even notices (except for me) that IE is a horrible ripoff browser that is vulnerable enough to crash your computer. Not even the teachers think to install any other browser. I don't get it. But seriously, the teachers? They're seriously the ones that get to use any browser? I don't think the teachers really even care about what browser they're using.

CatsUnited wrote:

> Wikipedia because we're supposed to use World Book Web.
Yeah, our school encourages World Book Web too. I, personally, think that sure, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS may like World Book Web, but what about US? Do WE look like we want to use World Book Web? For most of us, I'm pretty sure the answer would be no, I'd much rather like it if you unblocked Wikipedia which is a much better source that we're all familiar with, end of story. But of course, THEY don't want to listen to our opinions on any of THAT. Geez, they could at least give us some input about what browser we want…

But people can go in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the facts not true.
That point doesn't hold because people can do in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the false facts actually true.

Teachers think that you can trust personal sites more than Wikipedia, but this ISN'T TRUE!
On a personal site, you can post what you want even if it's incorrect.
On Wikipedia, at least there are hundreds of people out there to fix your mistakes.

Well, that does make sense, but people can and do change true facts to false facts for a laugh or just something to do.
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lollypop730 wrote:

epicanna27 wrote:

lollypop730 wrote:

goldfish678 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

(we have to use IE, teachers can use any browser)
Wait a second, you're saying that the teachers can use any browser?! That's so unfair. At my school, nobody even notices (except for me) that IE is a horrible ripoff browser that is vulnerable enough to crash your computer. Not even the teachers think to install any other browser. I don't get it. But seriously, the teachers? They're seriously the ones that get to use any browser? I don't think the teachers really even care about what browser they're using.

CatsUnited wrote:

> Wikipedia because we're supposed to use World Book Web.
Yeah, our school encourages World Book Web too. I, personally, think that sure, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS may like World Book Web, but what about US? Do WE look like we want to use World Book Web? For most of us, I'm pretty sure the answer would be no, I'd much rather like it if you unblocked Wikipedia which is a much better source that we're all familiar with, end of story. But of course, THEY don't want to listen to our opinions on any of THAT. Geez, they could at least give us some input about what browser we want…

But people can go in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the facts not true.
That point doesn't hold because people can do in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the false facts actually true.

Teachers think that you can trust personal sites more than Wikipedia, but this ISN'T TRUE!
On a personal site, you can post what you want even if it's incorrect.
On Wikipedia, at least there are hundreds of people out there to fix your mistakes.

Well, that does make sense, but people can and do change true facts to false facts for a laugh or just something to do.
Pretty sure you can get banned for intentionally making stuff false/replacing a page with “aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa”. It's internet vandalism, but at least you can restore the old version in like 3 clicks.
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We use Chromebooks and computers since some of the stuff we do can only run on computers. They say we can't go on Wikipedia and Youtube even during free time! They block Animal Jam and recently we've been having problems running Scratch and Fireboy vs. Watergirl from Coolmath. I feel like the only thing I can ever do is school stuff on them, even during free time.
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Filter:
> all forums except scratch forums (makes sense, forums aren't really school appropriate)
> during finals, school websites are blocked to prevent cheating (so no scratch )
> game sites except unblocked games (it's through google) and coolmath (I've ranted about that long enough.)
> YouTube, which makes sense. (Apparently it's not cool to have a 100% cuss-free channel anymore.)
> social media (even though everyone is still Instagramming with cellular data on their phone)
> a website allowing you to generate fake identities. (apparently this is criminal activity…man, we do weird things in gifted class.)
> and more to come soon!
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epicanna27 wrote:

Filter:
> all forums except scratch forums (makes sense, forums aren't really school appropriate)
> during finals, school websites are blocked to prevent cheating (so no scratch )
> game sites except unblocked games (it's through google) and coolmath (I've ranted about that long enough.)
> YouTube, which makes sense. (Apparently it's not cool to have a 100% cuss-free channel anymore.)
> social media (even though everyone is still Instagramming with cellular data on their phone)
> a website allowing you to generate fake identities. (apparently this is criminal activity…man, we do weird things in gifted class.)
> and more to come soon!
What's finals?
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lollypop730 wrote:

epicanna27 wrote:

lollypop730 wrote:

goldfish678 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

(we have to use IE, teachers can use any browser)
Wait a second, you're saying that the teachers can use any browser?! That's so unfair. At my school, nobody even notices (except for me) that IE is a horrible ripoff browser that is vulnerable enough to crash your computer. Not even the teachers think to install any other browser. I don't get it. But seriously, the teachers? They're seriously the ones that get to use any browser? I don't think the teachers really even care about what browser they're using.

CatsUnited wrote:

> Wikipedia because we're supposed to use World Book Web.
Yeah, our school encourages World Book Web too. I, personally, think that sure, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS may like World Book Web, but what about US? Do WE look like we want to use World Book Web? For most of us, I'm pretty sure the answer would be no, I'd much rather like it if you unblocked Wikipedia which is a much better source that we're all familiar with, end of story. But of course, THEY don't want to listen to our opinions on any of THAT. Geez, they could at least give us some input about what browser we want…

But people can go in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the facts not true.
That point doesn't hold because people can do in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the false facts actually true.

Teachers think that you can trust personal sites more than Wikipedia, but this ISN'T TRUE!
On a personal site, you can post what you want even if it's incorrect.
On Wikipedia, at least there are hundreds of people out there to fix your mistakes.

Well, that does make sense, but people can and do change true facts to false facts for a laugh or just something to do.
Plus a huge number of automated bots that correct things. Besides, things like world book web most likely don't have anything near as much information as wikipedia. Plus several of my teachers is a great place to start at, so long as it isn't your only source. (Also, I'm pretty sure that blocking wikipedia is a violation of the constitution or something for freedom of speech and information. You should start a petition to get them to unblock it or have some form of organized peaceful protest. I know that if they blocked it at my school, they would get multiple angry letters/emails, and I'd immediately begin organizing some sort of civil unrest to get them to unblock it.

Last edited by Generalstarwars333 (Feb. 19, 2016 01:22:31)

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Jonathan50 wrote:

epicanna27 wrote:

Filter:
> all forums except scratch forums (makes sense, forums aren't really school appropriate)
> during finals, school websites are blocked to prevent cheating (so no scratch )
> game sites except unblocked games (it's through google) and coolmath (I've ranted about that long enough.)
> YouTube, which makes sense. (Apparently it's not cool to have a 100% cuss-free channel anymore.)
> social media (even though everyone is still Instagramming with cellular data on their phone)
> a website allowing you to generate fake identities. (apparently this is criminal activity…man, we do weird things in gifted class.)
> and more to come soon!
What's finals?
The final test at the end of each semester. You don't do them in elementary school and usually not middle school, but my middle school is an exception.
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epicanna27 wrote:

> a website allowing you to generate fake identities. (apparently this is criminal activity…man, we do weird things in gifted class.)
Wouldn't scratch count as one of those?
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Generalstarwars333 wrote:

epicanna27 wrote:

> a website allowing you to generate fake identities. (apparently this is criminal activity…man, we do weird things in gifted class.)
Wouldn't scratch count as one of those?

A username is not a fake identity.
This means a fake real name, email, social security number, username, password, blood type, and literally everything there is to know about a person.
I was just looking for a name for a character.
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Generalstarwars333 wrote:

lollypop730 wrote:

epicanna27 wrote:

lollypop730 wrote:

goldfish678 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

(we have to use IE, teachers can use any browser)
Wait a second, you're saying that the teachers can use any browser?! That's so unfair. At my school, nobody even notices (except for me) that IE is a horrible ripoff browser that is vulnerable enough to crash your computer. Not even the teachers think to install any other browser. I don't get it. But seriously, the teachers? They're seriously the ones that get to use any browser? I don't think the teachers really even care about what browser they're using.

CatsUnited wrote:

> Wikipedia because we're supposed to use World Book Web.
Yeah, our school encourages World Book Web too. I, personally, think that sure, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS may like World Book Web, but what about US? Do WE look like we want to use World Book Web? For most of us, I'm pretty sure the answer would be no, I'd much rather like it if you unblocked Wikipedia which is a much better source that we're all familiar with, end of story. But of course, THEY don't want to listen to our opinions on any of THAT. Geez, they could at least give us some input about what browser we want…

But people can go in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the facts not true.
That point doesn't hold because people can do in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the false facts actually true.

Teachers think that you can trust personal sites more than Wikipedia, but this ISN'T TRUE!
On a personal site, you can post what you want even if it's incorrect.
On Wikipedia, at least there are hundreds of people out there to fix your mistakes.

Well, that does make sense, but people can and do change true facts to false facts for a laugh or just something to do.
Plus a huge number of automated bots that correct things. Besides, things like world book web most likely don't have anything near as much information as wikipedia. Plus several of my teachers is a great place to start at, so long as it isn't your only source. (Also, I'm pretty sure that blocking wikipedia is a violation of the constitution or something for freedom of speech and information. You should start a petition to get them to unblock it or have some form of organized peaceful protest. I know that if they blocked it at my school, they would get multiple angry letters/emails, and I'd immediately begin organizing some sort of civil unrest to get them to unblock it.
WAIT, WHAT?
Blocking wikipedia is against the Constitution!?!?!?!?!?!?
Can we use that against blocking other sites?
Or is it something special about wikipedia?
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epicanna27 wrote:

Generalstarwars333 wrote:

lollypop730 wrote:

epicanna27 wrote:

lollypop730 wrote:

goldfish678 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

(we have to use IE, teachers can use any browser)
Wait a second, you're saying that the teachers can use any browser?! That's so unfair. At my school, nobody even notices (except for me) that IE is a horrible ripoff browser that is vulnerable enough to crash your computer. Not even the teachers think to install any other browser. I don't get it. But seriously, the teachers? They're seriously the ones that get to use any browser? I don't think the teachers really even care about what browser they're using.

CatsUnited wrote:

> Wikipedia because we're supposed to use World Book Web.
Yeah, our school encourages World Book Web too. I, personally, think that sure, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS may like World Book Web, but what about US? Do WE look like we want to use World Book Web? For most of us, I'm pretty sure the answer would be no, I'd much rather like it if you unblocked Wikipedia which is a much better source that we're all familiar with, end of story. But of course, THEY don't want to listen to our opinions on any of THAT. Geez, they could at least give us some input about what browser we want…

But people can go in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the facts not true.
That point doesn't hold because people can do in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the false facts actually true.

Teachers think that you can trust personal sites more than Wikipedia, but this ISN'T TRUE!
On a personal site, you can post what you want even if it's incorrect.
On Wikipedia, at least there are hundreds of people out there to fix your mistakes.

Well, that does make sense, but people can and do change true facts to false facts for a laugh or just something to do.
Plus a huge number of automated bots that correct things. Besides, things like world book web most likely don't have anything near as much information as wikipedia. Plus several of my teachers is a great place to start at, so long as it isn't your only source. (Also, I'm pretty sure that blocking wikipedia is a violation of the constitution or something for freedom of speech and information. You should start a petition to get them to unblock it or have some form of organized peaceful protest. I know that if they blocked it at my school, they would get multiple angry letters/emails, and I'd immediately begin organizing some sort of civil unrest to get them to unblock it.
WAIT, WHAT?
Blocking wikipedia is against the Constitution!?!?!?!?!?!?
Can we use that against blocking other sites?
Or is it something special about wikipedia?
I would say that denying access to a place where you can easily find information on basically anything that you can possibly think of that is real would be unconstitutional and counter-intuitive. Why deny you so much knowledge? They've got an article of almost everything. It put's any physical encyclopedia to shame. Plus it's a .org, not a .com. You can't argue with that. I wouldn't say that you could use that argument against other sites. Infact, that would probably just undermine you're point about wikipedia.

A username is not a fake identity.
This means a fake real name, email, social security number, username, password, blood type, and literally everything there is to know about a person.
I was just looking for a name for a character.
See, on the internet we all adapt a persona and manner different than how we our in real life. We can hide behind anonymity, and since we only interact through written language and only see a person's profile pic, it can make interactions easier. For instance, in real life, I am basically unable to make eye contact with a girl or hold a non-awkward conversation with one. I'm kind of shy around new places. Yet online I can talk with anybody easily. We all act differently online than in real life. So in essence everyone is using a fake identity that mis-represents how they may be in real life. And if that doesn't mean anything to you, I assume you've never told one of the biggest lies on the internet aside from ‘lol’ and ‘I have read the terms and conditions of blah blah blah’ : “I am XYZ years old or older.” This is why there seems to be so many people born around world war one on the internet. They're actually six year olds playing games so they can rage and scream at their parents for more energy drinks while they cuss people out when they die in their game from running into a building trying to no scope while the other team is laughing and and and I'm far away from my original point now. *begins the long walk back to his original point*

Last edited by Generalstarwars333 (Feb. 19, 2016 03:12:25)

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Generalstarwars333 wrote:

epicanna27 wrote:

Generalstarwars333 wrote:

lollypop730 wrote:

epicanna27 wrote:

lollypop730 wrote:

goldfish678 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

(we have to use IE, teachers can use any browser)
Wait a second, you're saying that the teachers can use any browser?! That's so unfair. At my school, nobody even notices (except for me) that IE is a horrible ripoff browser that is vulnerable enough to crash your computer. Not even the teachers think to install any other browser. I don't get it. But seriously, the teachers? They're seriously the ones that get to use any browser? I don't think the teachers really even care about what browser they're using.

CatsUnited wrote:

> Wikipedia because we're supposed to use World Book Web.
Yeah, our school encourages World Book Web too. I, personally, think that sure, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS may like World Book Web, but what about US? Do WE look like we want to use World Book Web? For most of us, I'm pretty sure the answer would be no, I'd much rather like it if you unblocked Wikipedia which is a much better source that we're all familiar with, end of story. But of course, THEY don't want to listen to our opinions on any of THAT. Geez, they could at least give us some input about what browser we want…

But people can go in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the facts not true.
That point doesn't hold because people can do in and change the words in Wikipedia, making some of the false facts actually true.

Teachers think that you can trust personal sites more than Wikipedia, but this ISN'T TRUE!
On a personal site, you can post what you want even if it's incorrect.
On Wikipedia, at least there are hundreds of people out there to fix your mistakes.

Well, that does make sense, but people can and do change true facts to false facts for a laugh or just something to do.
Plus a huge number of automated bots that correct things. Besides, things like world book web most likely don't have anything near as much information as wikipedia. Plus several of my teachers is a great place to start at, so long as it isn't your only source. (Also, I'm pretty sure that blocking wikipedia is a violation of the constitution or something for freedom of speech and information. You should start a petition to get them to unblock it or have some form of organized peaceful protest. I know that if they blocked it at my school, they would get multiple angry letters/emails, and I'd immediately begin organizing some sort of civil unrest to get them to unblock it.
WAIT, WHAT?
Blocking wikipedia is against the Constitution!?!?!?!?!?!?
Can we use that against blocking other sites?
Or is it something special about wikipedia?
I would say that denying access to a place where you can easily find information on basically anything that you can possibly think of that is real would be unconstitutional and counter-intuitive. Why deny you so much knowledge? They've got an article of almost everything. It put's any physical encyclopedia to shame. Plus it's a .org, not a .com. You can't argue with that. I wouldn't say that you could use that argument against other sites. Infact, that would probably just undermine you're point about wikipedia.

A username is not a fake identity.
This means a fake real name, email, social security number, username, password, blood type, and literally everything there is to know about a person.
I was just looking for a name for a character.
See, on the internet we all adapt a persona and manner different than how we our in real life. We can hide behind anonymity, and since we only interact through written language and only see a person's profile pic, it can make interactions easier. For instance, in real life, I am basically unable to make eye contact with a girl or hold a non-awkward conversation with one. I'm kind of shy around new places. Yet online I can talk with anybody easily. We all act differently online than in real life. So in essence everyone is using a fake identity that mis-represents how they may be in real life. And if that doesn't mean anything to you, I assume you've never told one of the biggest lies on the internet aside from ‘lol’ and ‘I have read the terms and conditions of blah blah blah’ : “I am XYZ years old or older.” This is why there seems to be so many people born around world war one on the internet. They're actually six year olds playing games so they can rage and scream at their parents for more energy drinks while they cuss people out when they die in their game from running into a building trying to no scope while the other team is laughing and and and I'm far away from my original point now. *begins the long walk back to his original point*
Okay if it makes you feel any better you are technically talking to a girl right now: me. XD
But I mean something serious that I can see where the school district is coming from blocking that site. That will generate things down to a person's Social Security Number, address, password, blood type, and everything. Make a few selections and bam, a criminal could have a new fake identity all ready. Just simply being an extrovert online when you are really an introvert is nothing compared to that.
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please cut the wall of quotes
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epicanna27 wrote:

Okay if it makes you feel any better you are technically talking to a girl right now: me. XD
But I mean something serious that I can see where the school district is coming from blocking that site. That will generate things down to a person's Social Security Number, address, password, blood type, and everything. Make a few selections and bam, a criminal could have a new fake identity all ready. Just simply being an extrovert online when you are really an introvert is nothing compared to that.
*finally makes it back to point* I suspected you where from your profile pic.

[Snipped the quotes - please try to keep them to a reasonable depth. Thanks!]

Last edited by Harakou (Feb. 19, 2016 19:50:55)

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epicanna27 wrote:

Jonathan50 wrote:

Generalstarwars333 wrote:

Or if you want to know how much money you'll get for every MOAB or BFB or ZOMG you kill.
They don't have BTD 4 or BTD 5, they just have BTD 3, 2 and 1 and it has neither BFBs nor ZOMGs.
Yes, because “your teachers wouldn't let you on coolmath anymore because of ads”.
My reaction: THEY WOULDN'T ALREADY ONCE THEY SAW THE ADS

I told someone today I wanted to start a petition to either unblock all other games or get Coolmath blocked with them, because it's the same thing. An ad-infested non-educational game site. Schools are always saying you can say anything on the internet even if it's not true, yet they don't block a game site claiming to be math but not being math.

I checked out coolifiedgames.com, their site for “games without math” and it's exactly the same thing.
My reaction: Okay, stop referring to Coolmath Games as just Coolmath. Coolmath itself actually contains a pretty good bit of math. Coolmath Games is just a section of Coolmath. They're not the same thing.

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