blob8108 wrote:

drmcw wrote:

I do hope you're providing a decent debugger?

Well, that all depends. What would a decent debugger look like?

If you mean “better than Scratch”, then sorry, no…

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

drmcw wrote:

I do hope you're providing a decent debugger?

Well, that all depends. What would a decent debugger look like?

If you mean “better than Scratch”, then sorry, no…

This isn't really much of a tosh-related issue. You'd need to mod phosphorus (add support for some custom “breakpoint” JSON and make it pause there - it shouldn't be too hard really)

define breakpoint
if <not <(debug) = [1]>>
  stop [this script v]
end
say [breakpoint reached] for (3) secs
repeat until <(answer) = [y]>
  ask [Continue?] and wait
end

define assert (assertion) <cond>
if <not <(debug) = [1]>>
  stop [this script v]
end
if <not <cond :: custom-arg>>
  say (join (join [assertion ] (assertion)) [ failed!!]) for (3) secs
  repeat until <(answer) = [y]>
    ask [Continue?] and wait
  end
end

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

This isn't really much of a tosh-related issue. You'd need to mod phosphorus

ChocolatePi wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

drmcw wrote:

I do hope you're providing a decent debugger?

Well, that all depends. What would a decent debugger look like?

If you mean “better than Scratch”, then sorry, no…

This isn't really much of a tosh-related issue. You'd need to mod phosphorus (add support for some custom “breakpoint” JSON and make it pause there - it shouldn't be too hard really)

But then you'd have to remove the breakpoint or else it won't work with Scratch!

bobbybee wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

drmcw wrote:

I do hope you're providing a decent debugger?

Well, that all depends. What would a decent debugger look like?

If you mean “better than Scratch”, then sorry, no…

This isn't really much of a tosh-related issue. You'd need to mod phosphorus (add support for some custom “breakpoint” JSON and make it pause there - it shouldn't be too hard really)

But then you'd have to remove the breakpoint or else it won't work with Scratch!

Harder said than done :-)

Jonathan50 wrote:

snippity snip::grey

problem solved

blob8108 wrote:

drmcw wrote:

I do hope you're providing a decent debugger?

Well, that all depends. What would a decent debugger look like?

If you mean “better than Scratch”, then sorry, no…

blob8108 wrote:

Icely wrote:

Wish you would share the source, though.

I plan to release at least part of it on GitHub, and I think I'd like to be able to accept contributions from the community. However, I don't yet have a plan for releasing the code under an open-source licence (that is, one which lets you remix tosh). I'm considering 3-clause BSD, or maybe something similar to the Scratch Source Code License.

Basically, tosh is a labour of love, and I've been working on this “project” in effect for over four years, so the thought of someone else stealing my code, and eg. selling it somewhere, is really scary!

EDIT: I realise you probably meant “I wish you would release it now”? To which the answer is: it's not ready yet! I want it to be useful before I release it. It looks good in screenshots, but there's still a fair bit of missing functionality, that would stop you from using it for making actual projects.

That said, if you're interested in beta testing… drop me an email

blob8108 wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

(Maybe I don't see *why* you want to release it there)

Because it's an easy way to distribute apps to OS X users?

Yeah. I expect I'll get more money from selling a Mac app than I would from donations. And a native app is a really nice thing to have!

I'm happy with 3-clause BSD. The nefarious code-stealing doomsday scenario isn't going to happen

Jonathan50 wrote:

blob8108 wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

(Maybe I don't see *why* you want to release it there)

Because it's an easy way to distribute apps to OS X users?

Yeah. I expect I'll get more money from selling a Mac app than I would from donations. And a native app is a really nice thing to have!

I'm happy with 3-clause BSD. The nefarious code-stealing doomsday scenario isn't going to happen

Oh, since you are the copyright holder, you may put the online version as (A)GPL and make the Mac app version proprietary*, unless you are using (A)GPL code by someone else in the Mac app.

*yes Apple's Mac App Store TOS adds restrictions that makes your app nonfree

Jonathan50 wrote:

Oh, since you are the copyright holder, you may put the online version as (A)GPL and make the Mac app version proprietary*, unless you are using (A)GPL code by someone else in the Mac app.

*yes Apple's Mac App Store TOS adds restrictions that makes your app nonfree

Ethan_1 wrote:

did you notice that I gave you my email in the survey?

KittyNinja54 wrote:

lolwut

hiccup01 wrote:

KittyNinja54 wrote:

lolwut

? (At least try to contribute to the discussion…)

NoMod-Programming wrote:

tosh tosh tosh