tlangster wrote:

soniku3 wrote:

You know, they worked 2+ years on this, and 10% of the users gives negative views on 2.0. Remember this is the beta. Also, Cloud Data is not working cause ST is fixing bugs.

soniku3 wrote:

It's not as easy as you may think. I think even the best programmers on Scratch would need help

It worked better, though, in the earlier alpha.

That may be because they tried to fix it and/or added something.

This is what I am thinking:
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Scratchers: I want cloud variables, please hurry up and enable them!
…
Scratch Team: *Enables cloud variables that can currently only store integers, no cloud lists, and limit of 10 cloud variables*
Scratchers: *Tries out cloud variables*
Scratchers: This is stupid… I want cloud variables to store strings. I want cloud lists. I want more cloud variables.
~~~~

I don't understand everyone's problems. It's not like cloud data will be like this forever. It is only to help the Scratch Team fix bugs in the cloud data. If you really want strings in cloud variables, you could use some method of encrypting the string. If you want cloud lists, you could store the list like this: “list item 1;list item 2; list item 3;etc”, encrypted in a cloud variable. I don't know what you could do to get around the 10 variable limit, but is it really that hard to do?

nathanprocks wrote:

This is what I am thinking:
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Scratchers: I want cloud variables, please hurry up and enable them!
…
Scratch Team: *Enables cloud variables that can currently only store integers, no cloud lists, and limit of 10 cloud variables*
Scratchers: *Tries out cloud variables*
Scratchers: This is stupid… I want cloud variables to store strings. I want cloud lists. I want more cloud variables.
~~~~

I don't understand everyone's problems. It's not like cloud data will be like this forever. It is only to help the Scratch Team fix bugs in the cloud data. If you really want strings in cloud variables, you could use some method of encrypting the string. If you want cloud lists, you could store the list like this: “list item 1;list item 2; list item 3;etc”, encrypted in a cloud variable. I don't know what you could do to get around the 10 variable limit, but is it really that hard to do?

I agree with the first part. The ST wasn't even planning to open this if Scratchers never forced them.

tlangster wrote:

soniku3 wrote:

You know, they worked 2+ years on this, and 10% of the users gives negative views on 2.0. Remember this is the beta. Also, Cloud Data is not working cause ST is fixing bugs.

soniku3 wrote:

It's not as easy as you may think. I think even the best programmers on Scratch would need help

It worked better, though, in the earlier alpha.

That's probably because there were less people (less than 200 I think?) and also, everyone in the early alpha could be trusted (curators, SDS curators, TBG mods, etc.) that they wouldn't abuse Scratch and cloud variables.

kayybee wrote:

tlangster wrote:

soniku3 wrote:

You know, they worked 2+ years on this, and 10% of the users gives negative views on 2.0. Remember this is the beta. Also, Cloud Data is not working cause ST is fixing bugs.

soniku3 wrote:

It's not as easy as you may think. I think even the best programmers on Scratch would need help

It worked better, though, in the earlier alpha.

That's probably because there were less people (less than 200 I think?) and also, everyone in the early alpha could be trusted (curators, SDS curators, TBG mods, etc.) that they wouldn't abuse Scratch and cloud variables.

Basicly this and, the fix.

soniku3 wrote:

It's not as easy as you may think. I think even the best programmers on Scratch would need help

? I don't quite understand why you chose the one with the toungue sticking out. It looks like you're trying to be rude.

You obviously know nothing about devolopment
I'd like to see you make a better cloud variable system

I made a clever little project that uses cloud variables, and none of these complaints save live uploading hurt it.

Okay, fine, the lack of live upload is kinda killing it. Still, http://beta.scratch.mit.edu/projects/10090861

kayybee wrote:

tlangster wrote:

soniku3 wrote:

You know, they worked 2+ years on this, and 10% of the users gives negative views on 2.0. Remember this is the beta. Also, Cloud Data is not working cause ST is fixing bugs.

soniku3 wrote:

It's not as easy as you may think. I think even the best programmers on Scratch would need help

It worked better, though, in the earlier alpha.

That's probably because there were less people (less than 200 I think?) and also, everyone in the early alpha could be trusted (curators, SDS curators, TBG mods, etc.) that they wouldn't abuse Scratch and cloud variables.

Maybe in the early alpha. I've never been a mod.-anything, yet I was still in the (late) alpha but they still had cloud lists….

jvvg wrote:

tlangster wrote:

I would rather use Insanity's cloud variables, even though they are harder to use and… ARRRGGHHHH!

Hey! Mine are actually fairly easy to use. The only downside is it takes about half a second to get the value in which you can't use the project and that there are no lists unless you formulate a workaround with the explode/split block.

1. i very much agree that yours are easier.
2. yours sadly don't update but i can't figure out what is wrong about that (in the code, for squeak that is).

Hmm, this thread is way old, and lots has changed. Feel free to start a new thread with feedback on cloud variables!