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thegamemaker108
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN


I would really like to have internet blocks. You know, blocks that connect to the internet. I believe that it could be useful and could open up new ideas It brings new possibilities. The block would look like this:


Go to http:// () .[ com v] and wait


DaSpudLord wrote:

When the block is executed, the project is paused, and this message is displayed, with two options at the bottom-
This project wants to open the following link:

This project wants to open the following link:
<Insert link here>
Open Link
Don't Open Link

Pausing the project will prevent being spammed with tabs/message boxes, and popping up this message will allow the user to choose whether or not they want to open the page.

Secondly, there should be a whitelist of pages that can and cannot be opened. If the block is executed, and the page is not on the whitelist, then the block would be ignored and a warning message would appear (just like trying to save a string to a cloud variable).

If those are implemented, then support.
AWNSERS TO QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE

It would link to bad websites!

A: Please read the quote I put of DaSpudLord's idea about the whitelist/blacklist above.

You could make a forever loop and it would endlessly restrict you to that webpage !

A: Read the quote I put of DaSpudLord's idea about the message above.

It would be pointless.

A: It's not pointless. You could make buttons leading to projects you want the veiwers to see, kinda like signatures for forms and not fill the description with ugly links. Also, it would be cool if you could do a search engine. If you think that's pointless, then people make calculator programs. Those are pointless, and people still make them.

I hope you support

Last edited by thegamemaker108 (March 14, 2016 00:08:23)

DaSpudLord
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1000+ posts

Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

A couple problems-
when gf clicked
forever
go to [Any website]::control//Can cause a lot of lag by opening lots of tabs.
end
And-
when gf clicked
go to [A website with a virus]::control//Pretty self-explanatory, the user could get a virus on their computer and never realize it.
//Or
when gf clicked
go to [A website with inappropriate content]::control//Or the user would be seeing things which are not meant for kids' eyes.
So here are my solutions-

When the block is executed, the project is paused, and this message is displayed, with two options at the bottom-
This project wants to open the following link:
<Insert link here>
Open Link
Don't Open Link
Pausing the project will prevent being spammed with tabs/message boxes, and popping up this message will allow the user to choose whether or not they want to open the page.

Secondly, there should be a whitelist of pages that can and cannot be opened. If the block is executed, and the page is not on the whitelist, then the block would be ignored and a warning message would appear (just like trying to save a string to a cloud variable).

If those are implemented, then support.

Last edited by DaSpudLord (Dec. 11, 2015 22:44:05)

thegamemaker108
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

Good ideas

Last edited by thegamemaker108 (Dec. 11, 2015 22:44:17)

DaSpudLord
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

thegamemaker108 wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

...
That's a good idea
Thanks!

And finished editing my post.
thegamemaker108
Scratcher
23 posts

Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

DaSpudLord wrote:

A couple problems-
when gf clicked
forever
go to [Any website]::control//Can cause a lot of lag by opening lots of tabs.
end
And-
when gf clicked
go to [A website with a virus]::control//Pretty self-explanatory, the user could get a virus on their computer and never realize it.
//Or
when gf clicked
go to [A website with highly inappropriate content]::control//Or the user would be seeing things which are not meant for kids' eyes.
So here are my solutions-

When the block is executed, the project is paused, and this message is displayed, with two options at the bottom-
This project wants to open the following link:
<Insert link here>
Open Link
Don't Open Link
Pausing the project will prevent being spammed with tabs/message boxes, and popping up this message will allow the user to choose whether or not they want to open the page.

Secondly, there should be a whitelist of pages that can and cannot be opened. If the block is executed, and the page is not on the whitelist, then the block would be ignored and a warning message would appear (just like trying to save a string to a cloud variable).

If those are implemented, then support.
Good protection ideas
Scratcher1002
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

DaSpudLord wrote:

A couple problems-
when gf clicked
forever
go to [Any website]::control//Can cause a lot of lag by opening lots of tabs.
end
And-
when gf clicked
go to [A website with a virus]::control//Pretty self-explanatory, the user could get a virus on their computer and never realize it.
//Or
when gf clicked
go to [A website with inappropriate content]::control//Or the user would be seeing things which are not meant for kids' eyes.
So here are my solutions-

When the block is executed, the project is paused, and this message is displayed, with two options at the bottom-
This project wants to open the following link:
<Insert link here>
Open Link
Don't Open Link
Pausing the project will prevent being spammed with tabs/message boxes, and popping up this message will allow the user to choose whether or not they want to open the page.

Secondly, there should be a whitelist of pages that can and cannot be opened. If the block is executed, and the page is not on the whitelist, then the block would be ignored and a warning message would appear (just like trying to save a string to a cloud variable).

If those are implemented, then support.
bowytowy
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN



When the block is executed, the project is paused, and this message is displayed, with two options at the bottom-
This project wants to open the following link:
<Insert link here>
Open Link
Don't Open Link

Semi-support for this, but little kids could press “Open Link” out of curiosity and it could take them to a website with highly inappropriate content. Also, of you report it, it doesn't get taken down immediately.

Last edited by bowytowy (Dec. 11, 2015 22:58:27)

DaSpudLord
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

bowytowy wrote:

As for the white list, new web sites are created daily the white list would never be able to keep up with all the inappropriate sites.
A whitelist is a list of things that are allowed- in this case, websites. If a site is not on the list, it is not allowed. You are thinking of a blacklist, which is a list of sites that are not allowed. Only sites that are not on a blacklist would be allowed.
bowytowy
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

DaSpudLord wrote:

bowytowy wrote:

As for the white list, new web sites are created daily the white list would never be able to keep up with all the inappropriate sites.
A whitelist is a list of things that are allowed- in this case, websites. If a site is not on the list, it is not allowed. You are thinking of a blacklist, which is a list of sites that are not allowed. Only sites that are not on a blacklist would be allowed.
Whoops! Seems I got my colors mixed up. If there is a secure white list than full support.
Zekrom01
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

Last edited by Zekrom01 (Dec. 12, 2015 19:02:47)

thegamemaker108
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

a

Last edited by thegamemaker108 (Dec. 11, 2015 23:41:41)

thegamemaker108
Scratcher
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

Zekrom01 wrote:

support if the links are in the scratch domain only along with DaSpudLord's suggestion

Why does it matter anyway? You could also just hit the report button so the scratch team puts the inappropriate website in the whitelist.

Last edited by thegamemaker108 (Dec. 11, 2015 23:49:59)

-Carbonate-
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36 posts

Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

thegamemaker108 wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

support if the links are in the scratch domain only along with DaSpudLord's suggestion

Why does it matter anyway? You could also just hit the report button so the scratch team puts the inappropriate website in the whitelist.
Once you see something (inappropriate or scary) it is permanent. Even the report button can't undo that.
DaSpudLord
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

thegamemaker108 wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

support if the links are in the scratch domain only along with DaSpudLord's suggestion

Why does it matter anyway? You could also just hit the report button so the scratch team puts the inappropriate website in the whitelist.
1. You mean removes the inappropriate website from the whitelist-

DaSpudLord wrote:

A whitelist is a list of things that are allowed- in this case, websites. If a site is not on the list, it is not allowed. You are thinking of a blacklist, which is a list of sites that are not allowed. Only sites that are not on a blacklist would be allowed.
2.

-Carbonate- wrote:

Once you see something (inappropriate or scary) it is permanent. Even the report button can't undo that.
^^^
Forgetting something is not easy, especially something scary or inappropriate, which will probably be permanently engraved in young kids' minds the second they see it. Fun fact: It is impossible to intentionally forget something.
Scratcher1002
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

thegamemaker108 wrote:

I would really like to have internet blocks. You know, blocks that connect to the internet. I believe that it could be useful and could open up new ideas. You could use it like this: Let's say I wanted to put a working button that takes me to my webbly page. I would just use the internet block to do that. If you wanted to make a search engine powered by scratch, now you can! What about a button that takes me to a random scratch page? Totally! It brings new possibilities. The block would look like this:


Go to http:// [] [ .com] and wait

AWNSERS TO QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE




But it might link to inappropriate sites!

A: (Credit to DaSpudLord) Use the report button so the scratch team can add the inappropriate website to the whitelist. There would be a whitelist of pages that can and cannot be opened. If the block is executed, and the page is not on the whitelist, then the block would be ignored and a warning message would appear (just like trying to save a string to a cloud variable). Also, there would be a popup saying this:

This project wants to open the following link:
<Insert link here>
Open Link
Don't Open Link


I hope you support
??? o_o
IMPULSS
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

Post Removed

Last edited by IMPULSS (Dec. 12, 2015 02:33:19)

Zro716
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

There's just way too much regulation involved. It's been highly recommended to restrict the block to the Scratch website, but there's another problem at hand. The Scratch Team said they disapprove of vigorous requests to the Scratch servers, so the block would have to somehow prevent too many requests in a short time. Also, sometime in the future the website may have different links to places so the block in use would be outdated anyways.
DaSpudLord
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

thegamemaker108 wrote:

A: (Credit to DaSpudLord) Use the report button so the scratch team can remove the inappropriate website to the whitelist.
I think you mean this-

thegamemaker108 wrote:

A: (Credit to DaSpudLord) Use the report button so the scratch team can remove the inappropriate website from the whitelist.
Leadrien2366
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

Too risky. No support.
DANG IT. 60 second rules.
Zekrom01
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Internet blocks. UPDATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN

No support due to risk.

thegamemaker108 wrote:

Why does it matter anyway? You could also just hit the report button so the scratch team puts the inappropriate website in the whitelist.
The ST doesn't respond to reports quickly. Also, there are TOO many bad websites to put on that list, which would cause problems because it would would waste their time.

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