DrKat123 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Well, I see all support for the suggestion, but no good idea on how to implement it. Anyone have an idea on how to incorporate note slurring given the currently way the note blocks work in Scratch 2.0?

Just one question, does scratch uses midi ?

1.4 uses MIDI, 2.0 uses a custom sound bank since Flash does not have MIDI support.

I see block suggestions, but no methodology on how to implement it in 2.0. It reminds me of this popular suggestion for the vector editor - everyone wants a vector eraser, but no one knows any good way to implement eraser in vector. If you guys want this to be a viable suggestion, you guys will need to show us that doing slurring is feasible in 2.0.

DrKat123 wrote:

OK, I know what slurring means (since I know music). And it would be great to add it (but slurring sound doesn't make sense using piano or guitar voice)

On guitar, you do slide (which, although not identical, is similar.) In fact, by bending and sliding up strings simultaneously, you could imitate a slur perfectly.

On piano, there is no way to slur, but a glissando would be very similar.

CatsUnited wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Well, I see all support for the suggestion, but no good idea on how to implement it. Anyone have an idea on how to incorporate note slurring given the currently way the note blocks work in Scratch 2.0?

Just one question, does scratch uses midi ?

Scratch 1.x did.

@cheddargirl - I know that in piano, a slur means to play that piece of notes in legato (smooth, connected). So, you have several note blocks:

play note (60 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (56 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (54 v) for (0.5) beats

Usually, there is a small gap in between each note. What a slur would do is it would join the notes together, in a smooth transition between the two notes. I would rather see it implemented as a C-block like this:

slur :: sound cstart
play note (60 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (56 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (54 v) for (0.5) beats
end

To me, it makes more sense this way.

However, this is how I would suggest it to work, not INSANITYKID101's way.

GENIUS!

cheddargirl wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Well, I see all support for the suggestion, but no good idea on how to implement it. Anyone have an idea on how to incorporate note slurring given the currently way the note blocks work in Scratch 2.0?

Just one question, does scratch uses midi ?

1.4 uses MIDI, 2.0 uses a custom sound bank since Flash does not have MIDI support.

I see block suggestions, but no methodology on how to implement it in 2.0. It reminds me of this popular suggestion for the vector editor - everyone wants a vector eraser, but no one knows any good way to implement eraser in vector. If you guys want this to be a viable suggestion, you guys will need to show us that doing slurring is feasible in 2.0.

ok thanks ! Slurring makes more sense when there's no midi (sorry midi !). so this will be so tough to implement in scratch.

cheddargirl wrote:

Well, I see all support for the suggestion, but no good idea on how to implement it. Anyone have an idea on how to incorporate note slurring given the currently way the note blocks work in Scratch 2.0?

No support as per this.

For wind instruments, we could have one note fade into the other by controlling the volume of each note, simulating a slur. I made a project demonstrating this: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/81267082/

ChocolatePi wrote:

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.

Okay, thanks. I don't like playing piano anyway.

CatsUnited wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.

Okay, thanks. I don't like playing piano anyway.

why ? i play it everyday.

DrKat123 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.

Okay, thanks. I don't like playing piano anyway.

why ? i play it everyday.

I play my trombone EVERY WEEKDAY. O_O
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CatsUnited wrote:

slur :: sound cstart
play note (60 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (56 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (54 v) for (0.5) beats
end

To me, it makes more sense this way.
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I agree with this.

It's a good idea overall, but it makes more sense that way.

Support.

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.

Okay, thanks. I don't like playing piano anyway.

why ? i play it everyday.

I play my trombone EVERY WEEKDAY. O_O
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I play it everyday and my teacher always complaint about my legato and phrasing

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.

Okay, thanks. I don't like playing piano anyway.

why ? i play it everyday.

I play my trombone EVERY WEEKDAY. O_O
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I play it everyday and my teacher always complaint about my legato and phrasing

Woah. Really?

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.

Okay, thanks. I don't like playing piano anyway.

why ? i play it everyday.

I play my trombone EVERY WEEKDAY. O_O
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I play it everyday and my teacher always complaint about my legato and phrasing

Woah. Really?

Yes. Every week ! So I decided to buy the urtext versions (unedited versions), so I can play it freely, without any editor changes. Mainly slur or legato is found in romatic-classic music, but rarely in baroque music.

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.

Okay, thanks. I don't like playing piano anyway.

why ? i play it everyday.

I play my trombone EVERY WEEKDAY. O_O
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I play it everyday and my teacher always complaint about my legato and phrasing

Woah. Really?

Yes. Every week ! So I decided to buy the urtext versions (unedited versions), so I can play it freely, without any editor changes. Mainly slur or legato is found in romatic-classic music, but rarely in baroque music.

I really hate tuning because the tuner thinks I'm flat when I'M ON THE RIGHT TUNE!!! *goes ragequitting*

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.

Okay, thanks. I don't like playing piano anyway.

why ? i play it everyday.

I play my trombone EVERY WEEKDAY. O_O
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I play it everyday and my teacher always complaint about my legato and phrasing

Woah. Really?

Yes. Every week ! So I decided to buy the urtext versions (unedited versions), so I can play it freely, without any editor changes. Mainly slur or legato is found in romatic-classic music, but rarely in baroque music.

I really hate tuning because the tuner thinks I'm flat when I'M ON THE RIGHT TUNE!!! *goes ragequitting*

Wait tuning what ? I really don want to tune my violin myself (The G-String broke) until I'm experienced. Violin legato means playing several notes in one bow strokes.

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

CatsUnited wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.

Okay, thanks. I don't like playing piano anyway.

why ? i play it everyday.

I play my trombone EVERY WEEKDAY. O_O
░░░░░░░░░░░░░█
░█████████████
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I play it everyday and my teacher always complaint about my legato and phrasing

Woah. Really?

Yes. Every week ! So I decided to buy the urtext versions (unedited versions), so I can play it freely, without any editor changes. Mainly slur or legato is found in romatic-classic music, but rarely in baroque music.

I really hate tuning because the tuner thinks I'm flat when I'M ON THE RIGHT TUNE!!! *goes ragequitting*

Wait tuning what ? I really don want to tune my violin myself (The G-String broke) until I'm experienced. Violin legato means playing several notes in one bow strokes.

It's possible to tune a tenor trombone. There is a slide on the second curve
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INSANITYKID101 wrote:

It's possible to tune a tenor trombone. There is a slide on the second curve
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And you pull or push on it.
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Oh, I didn't know that

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

It's possible to tune a tenor trombone. There is a slide on the second curve
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And you pull or push on it.
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Oh, I didn't know that

-RANDOM FACT)=-
Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are not friends.

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

It's possible to tune a tenor trombone. There is a slide on the second curve
░████
█░░█░
░████
And you pull or push on it.
░████▓▓
█░░█░░░
░████▓▓

Oh, I didn't know that

-RANDOM FACT)=-
Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are not friends.

I know (after 1 hour 30 minutes of using my other CPU which have win 8.1). Well in the future I will use Linux or Ubuntu, it's Open Source !!

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

INSANITYKID101 wrote:

It's possible to tune a tenor trombone. There is a slide on the second curve
░████
█░░█░
░████
And you pull or push on it.
░████▓▓
█░░█░░░
░████▓▓

Oh, I didn't know that

-RANDOM FACT)=-
Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 are not friends.

I know (after 1 hour 30 minutes of using my other CPU which have win 8.1). Well in the future I will use Linux or Ubuntu, it's Open Source !!

I was stupid enough to plug a video cable into the laptop I'm using to some laptop with Windows 7. Boy, Windows 7 never stopped trying to adjust the monitor. O_O