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DrKat123
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

gamebeater187_tutor wrote:

Cream_E_Cookie wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

MARGOREDBARON wrote:

We love SCRATCH! We have about 400 kids in our area enrolled in our after school code clubs in the greater Seattle area! When SCRATCH schedules maintenance for what they think of as Wednesday night (6pm EST)…that is actually right at 3pm Pacific Time…exactly during our club time... This happened soo many times last Spring that we nearly had a rebelion. Off line version is not usually an option when using the school computers, so we are stuck playing “un plugged” type coding games…

Please remember your West Coast after school Scratchers when going down for maintenance! Thanks,
Please remember that i and some other scratchers live in Indonesia. So if the server downtime is 03:00 AM there, we will have a downtime at around 03:00 PM. Some scratchers still online at that time. So i can't say either support or no. (Even semi support)
Yeah, but most people live in the US

yeah, a little bit more presentage than other countries, like 60% us and 40% others (or more)

so the 40% others is having problems?
yes. of course we are having problems in Indonesia.
but i'm not online on vacations (yet other Indo scratchers is still using scratch)
Vetpetmon
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

Perhaps downtime could be on Sunday, when schools are closed and extracurricular programs are less likely to be using Scratch.
No!

The weekends are days when 1,000,000(?) Scratchers are online!
Nether_before
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

Eh, no support. There are users from all around the world who use scratch at different times of the day, so no matter where you moved it it would still be a problem. Even if you decided to just focus on america and move it to a time that is out of school hours, there are still users at home on scratch who'd be inconvenienced.
Zekrom01
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

I think Sat. is a good day for downtime - it doesn't interfere with school activities. Besides, Scratch isn't a major part of peoples lives.
Mr_Ticklez
Scratcher
15 posts

maintenance during school hours

yes i agree support
DrKat123
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

Zekrom01 wrote:

I think Sat. is a good day for downtime - it doesn't interfere with school activities. Besides, Scratch isn't a major part of peoples lives.
Oh really ? Do you think so ? Now it's the 2/3 part of My life !!! And the rest of them is music, piano playing, violin, music composition. So scratch is a major part of my life (Combined with programming). And there's NEVER a good time for server downtime. When tou are sleeping in 12:00 AM i'm using scratch and what ?? Server Downtime. THERE'S NEVER A GOOD TIME FOR SERVER DOWNTIME !!!. think about the people in, Indonesia, China, England. Server downtime can affect their activities (even though some still sleeping ,like in US) in Scratch. Unsaved Project ? Unposted Comment ???
dude341
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

Zekrom01 wrote:

I think Sat. is a good day for downtime - it doesn't interfere with school activities. Besides, Scratch isn't a major part of peoples lives.

Zekrom01 wrote:

I think Sat. is a good day for downtime - it doesn't interfere with school activities. Besides, Scratch isn't a major part of peoples lives.
I always use Scratch on the weekends. No support
DrKat123
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

dude341 wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

I think Sat. is a good day for downtime - it doesn't interfere with school activities. Besides, Scratch isn't a major part of peoples lives.

Zekrom01 wrote:

I think Sat. is a good day for downtime - it doesn't interfere with school activities. Besides, Scratch isn't a major part of peoples lives.
I always use Scratch on the weekends. No support
On the other hand, i use scratch EVERYDAY. since I'm homeschooled.
Zekrom01
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

DrKat123 wrote:

Zekrom01 wrote:

I think Sat. is a good day for downtime - it doesn't interfere with school activities. Besides, Scratch isn't a major part of peoples lives.
Oh really ? Do you think so ? Now it's the 2/3 part of My life !!! And the rest of them is music, piano playing, violin, music composition. So scratch is a major part of my life (Combined with programming). And there's NEVER a good time for server downtime. When tou are sleeping in 12:00 AM i'm using scratch and what ?? Server Downtime. THERE'S NEVER A GOOD TIME FOR SERVER DOWNTIME !!!. think about the people in, Indonesia, China, England. Server downtime can affect their activities (even though some still sleeping ,like in US) in Scratch. Unsaved Project ? Unposted Comment ???
Scratch isn't really as important as like studying for math finals or anything…

Last edited by Zekrom01 (Sept. 25, 2015 19:38:46)

Zekrom01
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

(late but…)
I actually have a idea, ST should get a test site, program the updates on there, copy it to the main site.

Last edited by Zekrom01 (Sept. 30, 2015 19:33:33)

ItchyCatIII
Scratcher
500+ posts

maintenance during school hours

I support only running maintenance when nobody uses Scratch, but during school hours, technology classes, and possibly other classes use Scratch. Scratch isn't only for people to use during free time.

I would suggest overnight, but I'm not sure if the ST wants to be awake and working at that time.

Therefore, no support for during school hours, but, if possible, support for a time when few people are using Scratch.
ItchyCatIII
Scratcher
500+ posts

maintenance during school hours

Nether_before wrote:

There are users from all around the world who use scratch at different times of the day

Good point. For example, British users, who are five hours ahead of Scratch time, may be ready to use this when it is only 3:00AM at MIT, which, if the ST was awake for, based on my previous post, would be a good time to update Scratch.

@Nether_before has a really good point. Users from all over the world use this, so any time that few people are on is just a coincidence, because people from all different time zones use this. It wouldn't be fair to update during school (at, lets say, 9:00AM) here (if we wanted to update during school hours) because, for example, in Indonesia, that would be 8:00PM… not school hours.

Last edited by ItchyCatIII (Sept. 30, 2015 21:42:18)

scratchisthebest
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

Probably the most costly solution, but just throwing this out there

What if a mirror server was put up, which just has the Scratch editor (and no online capabilities)? The idea being that you could work on Scratch projects while Scratch is down, and when Scratch comes back up, a button can be enabled in the mirror editor that allows you to export your Scratch project back on to the real website. (or just download/upload again)
CatsUnited
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

scratchisthebest wrote:

Probably the most costly solution, but just throwing this out there

What if a mirror server was put up, which just has the Scratch editor (and no online capabilities)? The idea being that you could work on Scratch projects while Scratch is down, and when Scratch comes back up, a button can be enabled in the mirror editor that allows you to export your Scratch project back on to the real website. (or just download/upload again)
So basically the offline editor?
DrKat123
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

scratchisthebest wrote:

Probably the most costly solution, but just throwing this out there

What if a mirror server was put up, which just has the Scratch editor (and no online capabilities)? The idea being that you could work on Scratch projects while Scratch is down, and when Scratch comes back up, a button can be enabled in the mirror editor that allows you to export your Scratch project back on to the real website. (or just download/upload again)
Wait what ? Do you mean Offline Editor ? You are talking about the offline editor. Mirroring servers would take time.
DrKat123
Scratcher
1000+ posts

maintenance during school hours

ItchyCatIII wrote:

Nether_before wrote:

There are users from all around the world who use scratch at different times of the day

Good point. For example, British users, who are five hours ahead of Scratch time, may be ready to use this when it is only 3:00AM at MIT, which, if the ST was awake for, based on my previous post, would be a good time to update Scratch.

@Nether_before has a really good point. Users from all over the world use this, so any time that few people are on is just a coincidence, because people from all different time zones use this. It wouldn't be fair to update during school (at, lets say, 9:00AM) here (if we wanted to update during school hours) because, for example, in Indonesia, that would be 8:00PM… not school hours.

Yup. 100% agree with you ! Indonesia is in the +07.00 UTC. When it's around midnight, here is around 12:00 PM. Some scratchers is still online. I say it's not fair !

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