PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

Superdoggy wrote:

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

I guess it is a little offensive, but that's only because “New Scratcher” is more of a rank than an experience level, so it can be discriminatory towards those with the rank who have had prior programming experience. Perhaps the phrase “Scratch novices,” or a similar phrase indicating skill level, would be more appropriate.

Discriminatory?

I think New Scratchers would be confused about that statement. just kidding!

However, it is a general fact - New Scratchers tend to be much less advanced than Scratchers. Why? Well, because Scratchers have had more experience with the software! Besides, New Scratchers with programming experience tend to get the Scratcher rank fairly quickly, I'd say.

Also, if I were to suggest this block

Apply a quaso-unicomplex [curvature v] displacement field to [sprite 7 v] :: control // lol I have no clue what this even says

Saying New Scratchers would be confused is not discriminatory at all because even if they had loads of programming experience they would have no clue what the block did, simply because they were new to the software! (and because that block is downright gobbelty gook xD)

I say that the phrase “confusing to New Scratchers” is fine, so long as it's not “New Scratchers are dumb” or anything.

BTW who supports the suggested block above? It would totally improve Scratch!!!! PLEASE???? xD

-Superdoggy

Agreed.
(Not about the block though)

Letsgopitt wrote:

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

Superdoggy wrote:

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

I guess it is a little offensive, but that's only because “New Scratcher” is more of a rank than an experience level, so it can be discriminatory towards those with the rank who have had prior programming experience. Perhaps the phrase “Scratch novices,” or a similar phrase indicating skill level, would be more appropriate.

Discriminatory?

I think New Scratchers would be confused about that statement. just kidding!

However, it is a general fact - New Scratchers tend to be much less advanced than Scratchers. Why? Well, because Scratchers have had more experience with the software! Besides, New Scratchers with programming experience tend to get the Scratcher rank fairly quickly, I'd say.

Also, if I were to suggest this block

Apply a quaso-unicomplex [curvature v] displacement field to [sprite 7 v] :: control // lol I have no clue what this even says

Saying New Scratchers would be confused is not discriminatory at all because even if they had loads of programming experience they would have no clue what the block did, simply because they were new to the software! (and because that block is downright gobbelty gook xD)

I say that the phrase “confusing to New Scratchers” is fine, so long as it's not “New Scratchers are dumb” or anything.

BTW who supports the suggested block above? It would totally improve Scratch!!!! PLEASE???? xD

-Superdoggy

Agreed.
(Not about the block though)

If it is an established programming concept, New Scratchers who have coded before will understand it. While saying it could be confusing to New Scratchers isn't exactly rude, I feel that that shouldn't be used as a reason to no support.

ChocolatePi wrote:

So WHY are people saying all these things like “discriminatory” or “offensive”? It is perfectly OK to say something is confusing for new people, and if someone joins with previous experience I'm sure they're mature enough not to feel bullied or offended by a few posts here and there that depend on the idea of new scratchers not having experience.

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

Superdoggy wrote:

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

I guess it is a little offensive, but that's only because “New Scratcher” is more of a rank than an experience level, so it can be discriminatory towards those with the rank who have had prior programming experience. Perhaps the phrase “Scratch novices,” or a similar phrase indicating skill level, would be more appropriate.

Discriminatory?

I think New Scratchers would be confused about that statement. just kidding!

However, it is a general fact - New Scratchers tend to be much less advanced than Scratchers. Why? Well, because Scratchers have had more experience with the software! Besides, New Scratchers with programming experience tend to get the Scratcher rank fairly quickly, I'd say.

Also, if I were to suggest this block

Apply a quaso-unicomplex [curvature v] displacement field to [sprite 7 v] :: control // lol I have no clue what this even says

Saying New Scratchers would be confused is not discriminatory at all because even if they had loads of programming experience they would have no clue what the block did, simply because they were new to the software! (and because that block is downright gobbelty gook xD)

I say that the phrase “confusing to New Scratchers” is fine, so long as it's not “New Scratchers are dumb” or anything.

BTW who supports the suggested block above? It would totally improve Scratch!!!! PLEASE???? xD

-Superdoggy

Agreed.
(Not about the block though)

ChocolatePi wrote:

Letsgopitt wrote:

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

Superdoggy wrote:

Chibi-Matoran wrote:

I guess it is a little offensive, but that's only because “New Scratcher” is more of a rank than an experience level, so it can be discriminatory towards those with the rank who have had prior programming experience. Perhaps the phrase “Scratch novices,” or a similar phrase indicating skill level, would be more appropriate.

Discriminatory?

I think New Scratchers would be confused about that statement. just kidding!

However, it is a general fact - New Scratchers tend to be much less advanced than Scratchers. Why? Well, because Scratchers have had more experience with the software! Besides, New Scratchers with programming experience tend to get the Scratcher rank fairly quickly, I'd say.

Also, if I were to suggest this block

Apply a quaso-unicomplex [curvature v] displacement field to [sprite 7 v] :: control // lol I have no clue what this even says

Saying New Scratchers would be confused is not discriminatory at all because even if they had loads of programming experience they would have no clue what the block did, simply because they were new to the software! (and because that block is downright gobbelty gook xD)

I say that the phrase “confusing to New Scratchers” is fine, so long as it's not “New Scratchers are dumb” or anything.

BTW who supports the suggested block above? It would totally improve Scratch!!!! PLEASE???? xD

-Superdoggy

Agreed.
(Not about the block though)

If it is an established programming concept, New Scratchers who have coded before will understand it. While saying it could be confusing to New Scratchers isn't exactly rude, I feel that that shouldn't be used as a reason to no support.

Generally, new scratchers (the rank) will not have coded before.

So WHY are people saying all these things like “discriminatory” or “offensive”? It is perfectly OK to say something is confusing for new people, and if someone joins with previous experience I'm sure they're mature enough not to feel bullied or offended by a few posts here and there that depend on the idea of new scratchers not having experience.

Superdoggy wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

So WHY are people saying all these things like “discriminatory” or “offensive”? It is perfectly OK to say something is confusing for new people, and if someone joins with previous experience I'm sure they're mature enough not to feel bullied or offended by a few posts here and there that depend on the idea of new scratchers not having experience.

IKR +1.

Digital_Gaming wrote:

Superdoggy wrote:

ChocolatePi wrote:

So WHY are people saying all these things like “discriminatory” or “offensive”? It is perfectly OK to say something is confusing for new people, and if someone joins with previous experience I'm sure they're mature enough not to feel bullied or offended by a few posts here and there that depend on the idea of new scratchers not having experience.

IKR +1.

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