Superandultra wrote:

Aboot4 wrote:

Superandultra wrote:

No support. The point of “New scratcher” is to show that they are new, and as a result. Most likely don't know the rules and culture of scratch to a significant extent. Being a scratcher means you are no longer new and are accustomed the culture and rules. I don't see how ranks like the one suggested would fit in. Not to mention that becoming a scratcher has nothing to with favourites and followers, so I don't see why any rank should be affected by this.

Because it's a goal to strive for that's less than being featured or curated. Haven;t you ever been to that point where you give up hope on achieving something new? Lots of others have. I just think this should be implemented so that we CAN give people something new to strive for.

No, I haver gotten to that point because I have never used scratch in an achieving manner, instead i use it in a learning and discovering manner. As a matter Scratch already has something that scratchers should strive for and that's learning programming more and more. Not gaining a piece of text marking that scratcher as superior. And another problem, what would that scratcher than strive for once he/she has obtained that rank? Then they're back at this position again, having “nothing” to strive for.

jvvg wrote:

I do not support this. Scratch is about programming (i.e. not social competition), and the New Scratcher rank only exists to combat spam. We should not create social status any more than we absolutely have to, as we want to encourage cooperation between users, not fighting to see who can get a higher status sooner, as that distracts people from what the original purpose of Scratch is.

Also, I (and many other people) have said this many times: Scratch is not about achieving “fame” (whether you define it by comments, views, love-its, etc.). Giving this status would change what people try to achieve. Also, keep in mind that the amount of views and love-its that a user gets is not really dependent on the quality of the project. It depends on how many people know that user, how well the user advertises, etc. Once again, we want to encourage programming and not advertising.

ElectroElectro2004 wrote:

No support. The point of scratch is to learn, not to get a special rank and brag about it. The requirements will make people think that scratch is all about popularity. (which it isn't.)

jvvg wrote:

I do not support this. Scratch is about programming (i.e. not social competition), and the New Scratcher rank only exists to combat spam. We should not create social status any more than we absolutely have to, as we want to encourage cooperation between users, not fighting to see who can get a higher status sooner, as that distracts people from what the original purpose of Scratch is.

Also, I (and many other people) have said this many times: Scratch is not about achieving “fame” (whether you define it by comments, views, love-its, etc.). Giving this status would change what people try to achieve. Also, keep in mind that the amount of views and love-its that a user gets is not really dependent on the quality of the project. It depends on how many people know that user, how well the user advertises, etc. Once again, we want to encourage programming and not advertising.

Aboot4 wrote:

What if Scratch had a new rank that Scratchers could strive for? We have New Scratcher, which is earned by default when you create an account. After that, you need 3 shared projects, a ton of comments, and you need to have been on Scratch for two weeks to become a Scratcher. What if the ST created a new set of requirements for a new rank called Pro Scratcher?

As of right now, once you become a Scratcher, most everyone's main goal is to get popular by creating projects. And the most common way people get popular is by getting their projects featured or curated. Well, as people soon find out, it's very difficult to get either of those. There's a really small chance, in fact. What if we could add ANOTHER goal for people to try to reach, a bit lower than the featured/curated goal, but also a bit more than the goal for Scratcher?

This would inspire people to strive for that, instead of giving up hope because they can't earn a featured or curated project. Do you guys support this? If so, what do you think the requirements should be? I say at least 500 love-its, at least 300 favorites, and at least 50 followers, PLUS all the requirements to become a regular Scratcher. In doing this, we can inspire users to keep trying, instead of giving up on getting featured or curated. So, are you guys with me, or what?

Letsgopitt wrote:

I support, but on one condition: the rank is not based on project quality, but on helpfulness.
I think that the Scratch Team should be able to promote you to Pro Scratcher if you have a bunch of instances of helping people and amswering questions and reporting things that aren't okay for the Scratch community. This doesn't just have to be on forums, as that could stop certain Scratchers from attaining this rank of helpfulness.

Deerleg wrote:

Letsgopitt wrote:

I support, but on one condition: the rank is not based on project quality, but on helpfulness.
I think that the Scratch Team should be able to promote you to Pro Scratcher if you have a bunch of instances of helping people and amswering questions and reporting things that aren't okay for the Scratch community. This doesn't just have to be on forums, as that could stop certain Scratchers from attaining this rank of helpfulness.

I suppose that trying to outdo others in being helpful would be more sincere than trying to outdo others in project quality. (And besides, it's harder to compete in helpfulness since you can only get so far before you overdo it.) Support for that.

Blueinkproductions wrote:

The point of Scratch is to make stuff, not to get new exciting things. 0% support.

Aboot4 wrote:

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

No support, we're not here to compete.

It's not a matter of competing… People find themselves in a position of boredom and/or sadness because they can't get a featured or curated project. If we give them something to strive for,Scratch actually has another purpose for them.

ElectroElectro2004 wrote:

No support. The point of scratch is to learn, not to get a special rank and brag about it. The requirements will make people think that scratch is all about popularity. (which it isn't.)

“haha u little scrub i'm a Scratcher and ur a New Scratch im bettar than u”