Featured Users On Homepage (plus other explanations)

seanbobe

Featured Projects: Projects which help and encourage programming
Featured studios and SDS: Studios with Projects which help and encourage programming.
Featured users: Users who will find out they are directly featured and brag/bully.

Last edited by seanbobe (July 5, 2015 19:52:43)

mariobros406

seanbobe wrote:
Featured Projects: Projects which help and encourage programming
Featured studios and SDS: Studios with Projects which help and encourage programming.
Featured users: Users who will find out they are directly featured and brag/bully.

Same could happen with featured projects.

jvvg

mariobros406 wrote:
seanbobe wrote:
Featured Projects: Projects which help and encourage programming
Featured studios and SDS: Studios with Projects which help and encourage programming.
Featured users: Users who will find out they are directly featured and brag/bully.
Same could happen with featured projects.

However, as users have said before, a featured project still is designed to place emphasis on the project and not the user.

mariobros406

jvvg wrote:
mariobros406 wrote:
seanbobe wrote:
Featured Projects: Projects which help and encourage programming
Featured studios and SDS: Studios with Projects which help and encourage programming.
Featured users: Users who will find out they are directly featured and brag/bully.
Same could happen with featured projects.
However, as users have said before, a featured project still is designed to place emphasis on the project and not the user.

The goal here isn't to place emphasis on the user, but on the projects created by the user.

seanbobe

mariobros406 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
mariobros406 wrote:
seanbobe wrote:
Featured Projects: Projects which help and encourage programming
Featured studios and SDS: Studios with Projects which help and encourage programming.
Featured users: Users who will find out they are directly featured and brag/bully.
Same could happen with featured projects.
However, as users have said before, a featured project still is designed to place emphasis on the project and not the user.
The goal here isn't to place emphasis on the user, but on the projects created by the user.

Then feature the projects.

The_Scratch_Squad

mariobros406 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
mariobros406 wrote:
seanbobe wrote:
Featured Projects: Projects which help and encourage programming
Featured studios and SDS: Studios with Projects which help and encourage programming.
Featured users: Users who will find out they are directly featured and brag/bully.
Same could happen with featured projects.
However, as users have said before, a featured project still is designed to place emphasis on the project and not the user.
The goal here isn't to place emphasis on the user, but on the projects created by the user.

Ok then, what about the requirements…?

From what I am thinking, I thing a bunch of already popular users will repeatedly be frontpaged…

iamunknown2

mariobros406 wrote:
purplebook163 wrote:
No support. Scratch isn't about being famous and being featured. Scratch is about imagining, programming, and sharing.
Then can't we just remove featured projects and studios?
Pot-of-Gold wrote:
No support. Scratchers can brag and tease, and spam the ST with FEATURE ME requests
Same with featured projects.

Basically what you guys are saying is that the featured projects and studios bars should be removed. This would just be a way to encourage clever uses of Scratch, while, having a secondary purpose of giving unpopular Scratchers more popularity. These users' projects might encourage other cool uses of scratch.

So what you're basically saying is that Scratch should be all about fame…

For featured projects, projects = programming. On the other hand, putting attention on the Scratch users isn't always the best idea (another target for bullies, fame isn't the main thing, etc).

For featured studios, studios = a compilation of projects.

For featured users, featured users = projects + personality + fame. Do you want people to start working hard, just for then to get famous?

Featured studios serve better to the Scratch community than featured users, as the featured users feature would cause a lot of competition between individual users. However, featured studios generally have a more diverse range of projects, which is the cause of accepting a wide range of projects from various users. As for competition between featured studios: Each studio has a very specific theme. Trying to compete with each other would be like comparing apples to oranges.

mariobros406

The_Scratch_Squad wrote:
mariobros406 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
mariobros406 wrote:
seanbobe wrote:
Featured Projects: Projects which help and encourage programming
Featured studios and SDS: Studios with Projects which help and encourage programming.
Featured users: Users who will find out they are directly featured and brag/bully.
Same could happen with featured projects.
However, as users have said before, a featured project still is designed to place emphasis on the project and not the user.
The goal here isn't to place emphasis on the user, but on the projects created by the user.

Ok then, what about the requirements…?

From what I am thinking, I thing a bunch of already popular users will repeatedly be frontpaged…

Easy. Less than 500 followers. That may vary based on the ST, but if this is an issue with featured users, then it also would be an issue for featuring already popular projects.

joshuaho

It looks like this topic is a duplicate of this one. Please use the existing thread in the link provided.

By the way, I actually agree with the others. Here's why: When a project is featured, its up there for people to see the goals of Scratch being acomplished. A user might make a complicated project with a lot of scripting. Or, they might just take a couple of minutes but create something thats useful for the website. Either way, its the potential of the programming language that's being focused and not the scratcher. If your suggestion is to feature users because of their projects that stand out, then we already have the Featured Projects section - no need for a second row serving the same purpose. But while it can be really rewarding to be on the front page, its also important to know the intended purpose of Scratch: To learn how to code.

jvvg

mariobros406 wrote:
The_Scratch_Squad wrote:
mariobros406 wrote:
jvvg wrote:
mariobros406 wrote:
seanbobe wrote:
Featured Projects: Projects which help and encourage programming
Featured studios and SDS: Studios with Projects which help and encourage programming.
Featured users: Users who will find out they are directly featured and brag/bully.
Same could happen with featured projects.
However, as users have said before, a featured project still is designed to place emphasis on the project and not the user.
The goal here isn't to place emphasis on the user, but on the projects created by the user.

Ok then, what about the requirements…?

From what I am thinking, I thing a bunch of already popular users will repeatedly be frontpaged…
Easy. Less than 500 followers. That may vary based on the ST, but if this is an issue with featured users, then it also would be an issue for featuring already popular projects.

Setting hard limits isn't going to solve an abstract problem. Also, a user being popular shouldn't completely disqualify him or her from being featured, as being popular does not preclude having good projects.

As for your earlier post (“place emphasis on…projects created by the user”), being featured seems like it would only entail showing the username/avatar, which would be by definition placing emphasis on the user. Remember that what you show on the front page is the impression users are going to get of the site, and if you show the username, people are going to think about that username and not necessarily about the projects that you have to click to get to. If you do decide to show a sampling of the user's projects, it is unfair to show off 5 projects by a single user (I am saying 5 because that's how many projects are in most front page rows). Most users aren't even frontpaged once (I can tell you from personal experience that on Scratch 1.4, I got one project top viewed for a few days, and I never got a single other project on the front page for longer than about 30 minutes or in the SDS), so it would be unfair to show off 5 projects by a user, no matter how often you cycle it. Also, finally, who would propose users? If we propose them like projects, it would simply be a collection of people suggesting popular users and people having their friends suggest them, which doesn't exactly promote quality users.

Paddle2See

joshuaho wrote:
It looks like this topic is a duplicate of this one. Please use the existing thread in the link provided.

By the way, I actually agree with the others. Here's why: When a project is featured, its up there for people to see the goals of Scratch being acomplished. A user might make a complicated project with a lot of scripting. Or, they might just take a couple of minutes but create something thats useful for the website. Either way, its the potential of the programming language that's being focused and not the scratcher. If your suggestion is to feature users because of their projects that stand out, then we already have the Featured Projects section - no need for a second row serving the same purpose. But while it can be really rewarding to be on the front page, its also important to know the intended purpose of Scratch: To learn how to code.

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