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Birdlegs
Scratcher
1000+ posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

I like clone management It's a fun brain exercise
TheHockeyist
Scratcher
1000+ posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

My computer can handle 301+ clones. My guess is maybe 1000 before things go weirdo.

I support more clones, though, but with a warning that it might crash your computer if someone implements one of the many “put 1000+ clones on your screen” scripts.
AwesomeLolLol
New Scratcher
9 posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

CosmicHamster wrote:

when green flag clicked
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

when I start as a clone
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

Now what?

Look what happens:

when I start as a clone
create lots of lag
AwesomeLolLol
New Scratcher
9 posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

AwesomeLolLol wrote:

CosmicHamster wrote:

when green flag clicked
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

when I start as a clone
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

Now what?

Look what happens:

when I start as a clone
create lots of lag

when green flag clicked
say [by that I mean a LOT of lag...] for (Infinity) secs

when green flag clicked
forever
set [Infinity v] to ((Infinity) * (Infinity))
end

Last edited by AwesomeLolLol (May 12, 2015 23:34:58)

DaSpudLord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

AwesomeLolLol wrote:

AwesomeLolLol wrote:

CosmicHamster wrote:

when green flag clicked
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

when I start as a clone
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

Now what?

Look what happens:

when I start as a clone
create lots of lag

when green flag clicked
say [by that I mean a LOT of lag...] for (Infinity) secs

when green flag clicked
forever
set [Infinity v] to ((Infinity) * (Infinity))
end
Please don't necropost.
DogQueenGirl
Scratcher
100+ posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

Prinseskat wrote:

Because something will crash after the first few hundred clones.
The_Scratch_Squad
Scratcher
1000+ posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

DaSpudLord wrote:

AwesomeLolLol wrote:

AwesomeLolLol wrote:

CosmicHamster wrote:

when green flag clicked
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

when I start as a clone
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

Now what?

Look what happens:

when I start as a clone
create lots of lag

when green flag clicked
say [by that I mean a LOT of lag...] for (Infinity) secs

when green flag clicked
forever
set [Infinity v] to ((Infinity) * (Infinity))
end
Please don't necropost.

Um… That was posted about 2 weeks ago… And that isn't necropsying…

AGGGH! THIS IS WHY I HATE AUTO CORRECTIONS AT TIMES! IT THINKS THE WORD IS NECROPSYING WHEN IT IT NECROPOSTING!!!!

Last edited by The_Scratch_Squad (May 14, 2015 01:34:57)

greentexas
Scratcher
42 posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

Prinseskat wrote:

Because something will crash after the first few hundred clones.
The exact number is 302.
rollercoasterfan
Scratcher
1000+ posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

Some computers will be fine, but others won't be. Any computer that is over 5 years old and doesn't have great specs will be dead. The current limit is still too much for some computers, so I don't think raising the limit will benefit anybody.

Lag and crashed computers anybody?
DaSpudLord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

The_Scratch_Squad wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

AwesomeLolLol wrote:

...
Please don't necropost.

Um… That was posted about 2 weeks ago… And that isn't necropsying…

AGGGH! THIS IS WHY I HATE AUTO CORRECTIONS AT TIMES! IT THINKS THE WORD IS NECROPSYING WHEN IT IT NECROPOSTING!!!!
Well, this was a dead topic, it had basically no supporters, so… yeah, I'd say it's necroposting.
Evil_Kumquat
Scratcher
24 posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

CosmicHamster wrote:

when green flag clicked
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

when I start as a clone
forever

create clone of [myself v]
end

Now what?

No Support.
PieCraftTV
Scratcher
7 posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

I support! I made a couple “Glitch Creator” projects with tansparent sprites following your mouse then doing whatever. They constantly clone to keep the glitch pattern going, but it only lasts a few seconds. I agree with this idea completely.
greentexas
Scratcher
42 posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

My computer makes up to 302 clones.
modrapetka
Scratcher
100+ posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

I think, is it really neccessary? Anyway, while 300 clones don´t necessarily crash the computer, it can lag seriously and you don´t want this.
And yeah, this was said already, I´m just thinking the same.
EduKumagai2003
Scratcher
38 posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

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Last edited by EduKumagai2003 (May 29, 2019 17:03:10)

TheLogFather
Scratcher
1000+ posts

why don't the scratch team make the maximum clones limit infinite

Having the maximum number of clones (301) does not cause lag, nor does it cause a crash.

Having lots of clones continually doing things at the same time causes lag.
Having clones continually creating more clones (e.g. by not realising that clones also receive broadcasts, so all of them end up cloning, rather than just the original sprite doing the cloning) can cause enough lag to make your browser effectively unusable (so it's as if it crashes).

I'd be very surprised if just having 300 clones, which are not all created at once (i.e. a short delay between each), and which are all doing nothing, can cause a crash - if anyone does have such a machine, let me know!


But you really don't need clones to cause either of the above…

You can cause lag simply by forever doing lots of pen drawing within a non-refresh custom block.
You can cause a *real* Flash crash (not just unresponsive browser) within 3-4 seconds with a simple two-block script, if you know how.

Last edited by TheLogFather (May 28, 2015 22:46:54)

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