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ErnieParke
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

I was going through the somewhat cleaner wiki when I noticed a new incidence of disgust:

The Stop Sign is a button that when clicked stops the running project immediately. It is a commonly used but rather abrupt end to a project, sometimes making users wonder if it is over.[citation needed]

So, I have two short questions for everyone:

  • Is the stop sign button commonly used?
  • After clicking the stop sign button, have you ever felt like the project wasn't over?

Thank you for any answers!

Last edited by ErnieParke (Aug. 5, 2013 14:43:30)

chocolatepenguin
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

1: I barely ever use it.
2: No.
BTW, I'm new to the wiki.
ProdigyZeta7
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

1. It's a common thing to use if your project goes haywire, e.g. a variable escapes to infinity or you're getting severe lag.
2. It stops completely, 99.9999% of the time.
EH7meowBeta
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

ErnieParke wrote:

I was going through the somewhat cleaner wiki when I noticed a new incidence of disgust:

The Stop Sign is a button that when clicked stops the running project immediately. It is a commonly used but rather abrupt end to a project, sometimes making users wonder if it is over.[citation needed]

So, I have two short questions for everyone:

  • Is the stop sign commonly used?
  • After clicking it, have you ever felt like the project wasn't over?

Thank you for any answers!
1. I rarely use the stop sign.
2. I wonder if that sentence is actually referring to the stop all block. I doubt somebody would click the stop sign and think the project wasn't over.
dr3w8
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

1. I use it if a project starts to run too slowly.
2. This:

EH7meowBeta wrote:

I wonder if that sentence is actually referring to the stop all block. I doubt somebody would click the stop sign and think the project wasn't over.

Last edited by dr3w8 (Aug. 4, 2013 22:21:22)

NoxSpooth
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

1. Sometimes I used it.
2. Well, it stops because that's what the block is for… But I believe you can still run those scripts starting with a “Key Pressed” hat block.

Last edited by NoxSpooth (Aug. 4, 2013 22:41:16)

dracae
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

1.When testing stuff with no screen refresh custom blocks, and everything lags up, I use the stop sign button. Really useful!

2. wut
Mokat
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

1. I use it when I'm done with a project and want to exit the page, or when there's something glitching.
2. Not really…. unless I have to stop the project because of lag.
turkey3
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

I use it all the time! I program a bit, play to test it, and stop to program more instead of programming while its still running, because that causes lag.
dvd4
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

1. I'd say it's used quite a bit
2. True. Something like a “you win” or “game over” is ,in my opinion, better.

And where is teh disgust ?
ErnieParke
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

dvd4 wrote:

1. I'd say it's used quite a bit
2. True. Something like a “you win” or “game over” is ,in my opinion, better.

And where is teh disgust ?
It's the lack of citations. If you look at the other Wiki Question topics I've made, you'll also noticed I call it other names.

Example: Citation-less Disease, Muck, Dreaded Evil, ect…

dracae wrote:

2. wut
I re-worded my second question a bit, so hopefully it'll be a bit more understandable. ;)

EH7meowBeta wrote:

2. I wonder if that sentence is actually referring to the stop all block. I doubt somebody would click the stop sign and think the project wasn't over.
No, it's not referring to the [stop [something v]] block, or else why would the quote above be the introduction to the Stop Sign? Still, thank you for the feedback! (as well as to everyone else who's replied!) Just a few more replies and I should be done with this topic.

With regards,

ErnieParke
cheddargirl
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

Well, I use it a lot since I go through several projects very often. But I've never had a sense of a project not being over after pressing it, I've always seen it as a way to stop a project from running.

Sounds like whoever put that in the article might be basing stuff on assumptions. It might be good to talk the issue over with the admins (no adding stuff that are citation-less unless more than one wiki editor agrees it should be in there).
EH7meow
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

ErnieParke wrote:

dvd4 wrote:

1. I'd say it's used quite a bit
2. True. Something like a “you win” or “game over” is ,in my opinion, better.

And where is teh disgust ?
It's the lack of citations. If you look at the other Wiki Question topics I've made, you'll also noticed I call it other names.

Example: Citation-less Disease, Muck, Dreaded Evil, ect…

dracae wrote:

2. wut
I re-worded my second question a bit, so hopefully it'll be a bit more understandable. ;)

EH7meowBeta wrote:

2. I wonder if that sentence is actually referring to the stop all block. I doubt somebody would click the stop sign and think the project wasn't over.
No, it's not referring to the [stop [something v]] block, or else why would the quote above be the introduction to the Stop Sign? Still, thank you for the feedback! (as well as to everyone else who's replied!) Just a few more replies and I should be done with this topic.

With regards,

ErnieParke
Well, I suppose that hat blocks can be retriggered so in some games the project would still work meaning that users would think it hadn't been stopped. Of course, if you clicked the stop sign and did nothing else with the game it would usually be stopped. I'm pretty sure I've seen a game that used the timer which never stopped even if you pressed the stop sign, I can't find the link though.

I still wonder if it was talking about the block though because it talks about the [stop [something v]] block in the next paragraph.

I think that given that this sentence is not a warning about anything if you don't get a reply soon saying they have wondered whether a project has stopped, I'd delete the sentence. Without a citation it's confusing to people because it seems hard to imagine how a project could not stop.
Sonickyle
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

ErnieParke wrote:

I was going through the somewhat cleaner wiki when I noticed a new incidence of disgust:

The Stop Sign is a button that when clicked stops the running project immediately. It is a commonly used but rather abrupt end to a project, sometimes making users wonder if it is over.[citation needed]

So, I have two short questions for everyone:

  • Is the stop sign button commonly used?
  • After clicking the stop sign button, have you ever felt like the project wasn't over?

Thank you for any answers!
I'm a user on there, I can change it for you if it hasn't been changed yet.

Edit: Done. If you disagree with this, tell me and I'll revert it.

Last edited by Sonickyle (Aug. 6, 2013 07:45:29)

DadOfMrLog
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

My experience with the Ping Test project tells me most people *don't* press stop - instead they must either click go back, click a link to somewhere else, or just close the tab.

How can I tell that? Well, because the project makes use of the timer trick to do some ‘clearing up’ of the cloud variables *after* stop has been clicked. It makes sure the connected user's ‘slot’ (a cloudvar) is reset to zero, and the count of connected users is decreased by one (if it's not already zero, which it could be for the last user, because it flips it every few seconds to provide a way to see if there is someone connected without actually having to run the project ).

However, when I go to the project (also if I look at the cloudvars), I nearly always find there is still someone left in one of the connected users' cloudvars, and the count may well not be zero. (If there is still someone else connected then the remaining user's instance of the project should notice after a few seconds and kick off the missing user anyway - but it's the last user to leave who obviously causes the problem…)

It's an interesting statistic, I find…

Last edited by DadOfMrLog (Aug. 6, 2013 09:05:56)

dvd4
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

ErnieParke wrote:

dvd4 wrote:

1. I'd say it's used quite a bit
2. True. Something like a “you win” or “game over” is ,in my opinion, better.

And where is teh disgust ?
It's the lack of citations. If you look at the other Wiki Question topics I've made, you'll also noticed I call it other names.

Example: Citation-less Disease, Muck, Dreaded Evil, ect…
uhhh….

you really think it's necessary ? And just because it doesn't quote some famous person doesn't mean it's false.
Paddle2See
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Wiki Questions: The Stop Sign

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