liamdadude

EncloCreations wrote:

Bro342 wrote:

dietbacon wrote:

Hi!

We wanted to make a post today to help provide some guidelines and clarify our policies around the use of points or virtual currencies to buy and sell sprites, art, or other things on Scratch. It’s great that people are using these to make new and creative projects for Scratch, but there are a few trends we see happening that could cause problems.

Some specific things we want to address are:
  1. Participation in these point systems must be completely optional. You can create a studio with rules that you would like people to follow, but all of Scratch’s Community Guidelines still apply. For example, all projects on Scratch are remixable. If someone doesn’t give you ‘points’ for something, they can still remix, re-color, and share parts of those projects on Scratch as long as they follow the Community Guidelines.
  2. It is not okay to say mean things, demand that Scratchers ‘pay’ if they have remixed or used something from your projects, or encourage others to post mean comments to someone because they didn’t participate in the point system.
  3. Many of the projects being created require people to agree to some set of rules they must follow. Your project can include a list of rules, but it shouldn’t insist people do anything that doesn’t line up with our Community Guidelines.
  4. Using something that feels like a real currency, such as creating a new crypto-currency for these studios, is not allowed on Scratch. Creating your own pretend point system that you keep track of in projects, comments, or studios is fine, but you should avoid doing anything that feels more like real money than this. Scratch isn’t meant for advertising or buying and selling things with real-world money.

If you have any questions or concerns about these rules, we encourage you to contact us about this.

Scratch on!

Hai,
I have some regards as I am creating a server that uses the Scratch API. All interaction will be on the Scratch website, projects and comments. However, is this allowed, because instant “transactions” would be a time saver (as I said, it will be all carried out by computers and servers on my side that check Cloud Data in projects and probably post on the users profile some sort of notice). As I do not want this to fall into number 4.
Thanks
Are reward systems allowed?

katixirro

sti_scratch wrote:

Children not having other choices is not true - most Minecraft servers have an official economy, I would recommend Cubeville - but them having limited choices is true, because of the prioritization of money (and that supports the ST's (and my) point on the license and the currencies).
I play Minecraft and Slither.io, but I want to join an artist community and talk to other artists and draw stuff. Sure, I can do pixel art on Minecraft, but it’s just not the same… I only have a few months until I turn 13 so I can leave then. A lot of artists on here have the same problem. It’s not the fact that I want to sell stuff, it’s the fact that other people are allowed to use my work. My only exception to that rule is a remix, but if it’s for their own project I’m against it unless they ask me first.

Dragonlord767

So, (just to clarify) is a “token” system where members of a shop collect tokens that can be exchanged for rewards allowed?

sti_scratch

Dragonlord767 wrote:

So, (just to clarify) is a “token” system where members of a shop collect tokens that can be exchanged for rewards allowed?
This thread is saying that all content on Scratch must be remixable, no matter whether it is part of an unofficial currency system. If the reward is art, other people who did not give you tokens for the art can still use art meant to be for another, though you may prohibit them from ordering art.

sti_scratch

katixirro wrote:

sti_scratch wrote:

Children not having other choices is not true - most Minecraft servers have an official economy, I would recommend Cubeville - but them having limited choices is true, because of the prioritization of money (and that supports the ST's (and my) point on the license and the currencies).
I play Minecraft and Slither.io, but I want to join an artist community and talk to other artists and draw stuff. Sure, I can do pixel art on Minecraft, but it’s just not the same… I only have a few months until I turn 13 so I can leave then. A lot of artists on here have the same problem. It’s not the fact that I want to sell stuff, it’s the fact that other people are allowed to use my work. My only exception to that rule is a remix, but if it’s for their own project I’m against it unless they ask me first.
The remixing of work with credit (even for one's project) is a very helpful part of the idea build-up process which Scratch so very favors. They are not allowed to use your work without making any changes, even with credit as it does not help with the idea build-up process. If you do not agree with this system, you may find or create another platform that suits your needs.

I hope this clarifies things,
James

furrypig

drmike51 wrote:

Okay, how many points do I have? This is the first time i found something like this
This topic is not saying that there is an official scratch currency that everyone is signed up for which people can trade with, this topic is just stating the rules around individual or groups of scratchers creating their own fake currency systems for other scratchers to sign up for and use. If you haven't signed up for any of these currency systems, then you don't have any points in any of them until you do so. There isn't any specific currency thing that you automatically are signed up for and have points in.

XayCraft360

I have a question: are studios like this (my point system) allowed, if not, tell me what i should remove/add

drmike51

rabbitsnowflake wrote:

drmike51 wrote:

-TapiocaPearl- wrote:

drmike51 wrote:

Okay, how many points do I have? This is the first time i found something like this
what is your banking number?
I don't know?
So, you have to like fill out a form to join, so if your not part of any, you don’t have points!
How?

felinemeower

drmike51 wrote:

rabbitsnowflake wrote:

drmike51 wrote:

-TapiocaPearl- wrote:

drmike51 wrote:

Okay, how many points do I have? This is the first time i found something like this
what is your banking number?
I don't know?
So, you have to like fill out a form to join, so if your not part of any, you don’t have points!
How?

1. Go to a Scratcher-made mall-sim (PoP, etc.)
2. Fill out the mall-sim's form to join

PurpleRabbit07

Can you make exclusive products?

-cooleddie002-

ICantForgive wrote:

hi
Hi

sti_scratch

PurpleRabbit07 wrote:

Can you make exclusive products?
Examples?

LaffytaffyWolf

Thanks for clarifying

PurpleRabbit07

sti_scratch wrote:

PurpleRabbit07 wrote:

Can you make exclusive products?
Examples?
“Get new banner styles with 00 points” “unlock the banner request form with 00 points ”

OTSFan203

katixirro wrote:

I don’t think this is fair. People are allowed to tell other people what to do with their work, to a certain extent of course, but still… We should be allowed to decide whether other people can use our work, it is ours after all, not Scratch’s.

There should be a rule that you have to ask another Scratcher to use their work, even if you give credit, unless it is a remix.

EDIT: I am not saying this against remixes, just that it seems unfair that “you can sell stuff as long as it’s not real money, but anyone can use it even without paying as long as they credit you”. That’s basically saying, “This shop can sell stuff, but people are allowed to steal from it as long as they say it was from that shop”. Do you get me?
I agree that it's unfair that anyone can do anything with your work, and that Scratch acts as if they own it, but that suggestion has unfortunately been rejected already.

As for the edit, you can set guidelines in your shop. For example:

If you decide to use something you got from our shop, then you MUST give credit to us.

If you worked incredibly hard on something and don't want to have to deal with theft and stuff, just put a watermark on it.

liamdadude

What if you didn't share the project until you received payment?

EncloCreations

liamdadude wrote:

What if you didn't share the project until you received payment?
A lot of people did this with mattcoin, i think its a pretty neat loophole.

liamdadude

EncloCreations wrote:

liamdadude wrote:

What if you didn't share the project until you received payment?
A lot of people did this with mattcoin, i think its a pretty neat loophole.
Yeah it would definitely work

sti_scratch

OTSFan203 wrote:

katixirro wrote:

I don’t think this is fair. People are allowed to tell other people what to do with their work, to a certain extent of course, but still… We should be allowed to decide whether other people can use our work, it is ours after all, not Scratch’s.

There should be a rule that you have to ask another Scratcher to use their work, even if you give credit, unless it is a remix.

EDIT: I am not saying this against remixes, just that it seems unfair that “you can sell stuff as long as it’s not real money, but anyone can use it even without paying as long as they credit you”. That’s basically saying, “This shop can sell stuff, but people are allowed to steal from it as long as they say it was from that shop”. Do you get me?
I agree that it's unfair that anyone can do anything with your work, and that Scratch acts as if they own it, but that suggestion has unfortunately been rejected already.

As for the edit, you can set guidelines in your shop. For example:

If you decide to use something you got from our shop, then you MUST give credit to us.

If you worked incredibly hard on something and don't want to have to deal with theft and stuff, just put a watermark on it.
It's not unfair, it's just that Scratch values imagination more than monetization/trademarks/you know. People improve your work, post it, then the chain continues, then it becomes a full-on masterpiece. Scratch prefers that over “post then done.”

sti_scratch

PurpleRabbit07 wrote:

sti_scratch wrote:

PurpleRabbit07 wrote:

Can you make exclusive products?
Examples?
“Get new banner styles with 00 points” “unlock the banner request form with 00 points ”
Well, probably.

P.S. your signature's cut off.