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#1451 2009-11-03 18:24:24

Tigerkidcub
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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

I AM JEWISH AND I AM PROUD OF IT!!!!
No one even mentioned judism, we have opinions too! I am not sure how this subject got brought up, but i will share my opinion anyway.
Everyone has their own ideas, so we should not make fun of them. I think... well i don't know... i am full of thoughts at the moment!


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#1452 2009-11-03 18:29:03

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

Boxhead wrote:

He-Man = The key to the universe!

I always knew it would end like this. There is a time-bomb waiting to blow us up!

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#1453 2009-11-03 18:44:02

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

What Are You Talking About! Of Course There Is!

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#1454 2009-11-03 18:45:17

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

Tigerkidcub wrote:

I AM JEWISH AND I AM PROUD OF IT!!!!
No one even mentioned judism, we have opinions too! I am not sure how this subject got brought up, but i will share my opinion anyway.
Everyone has their own ideas, so we should not make fun of them. I think... well i don't know... i am full of thoughts at the moment!

protect jon stewart!  he's your most important jew

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#1455 2009-11-03 18:47:06

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

D:< Why did you even make this topic? I personally am Christian, and this topic will probably become a religion war!

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#1456 2009-11-03 18:47:58

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

I do not like whoever said "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life." What do you mean!!!!!!!!!!!Maybe you think that, but do I?

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#1457 2009-11-03 19:01:55

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

Err - it says there *Probably* is no god (which I believe up until the FSM comes into it) - not:
THERE IS NO GAWD SO LETSH RUBB IT IN YHOUR FACE.

This thread would be deleted in 2 seconds flat if it was like that.

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#1458 2009-11-03 19:10:41

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

terminator68 wrote:

D:< Why did you even make this topic? I personally am Christian, and this topic will probably become a religion war!

There are over 1400 posts in this topic, and many people have said what you have said, but it's not a flame war unless you turn it into one like you just did! As long as you keep on topic, this will remain flame less, and it really shouldn't be deleted.

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#1459 2009-11-03 19:11:21

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

terminator68 wrote:

D:< Why did you even make this topic? I personally am Christian, and this topic will probably become a religion war!

Some one should go through this thread and make a list of quotes similar to this.


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#1460 2009-11-03 19:21:01

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

Mayhem wrote:

martianshark wrote:

My parents don't like it, and there's probably a lot more that don't know what their kids are doing on Scratch.

Your parents don't believe that everybody has the right to free speech, and freedom of religion?

That's not very American...

Umm... they do believe those rights. However, there is this thing called faith and if you start doubting because of these topics, some kids may never learn to be faithful.

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Generally speaking, if somebody doesn't want you to listen to opposing views it is because they recognise how weak their own arguments are.

Our mental processes our configured to look for the shapes of people or faces in random patterns, this is a well documented fact.  You keep demanding that a random pattern of dots that, when you squint, looks kinda like a person or more than one person, (with a mysterious squid or pac-man ghost swimming along beside him) is definitive proof of the existence of God. 

http://www.cathetel.com/images/guadalupe6.jpg

Now look at this photo, in which a figure appears to be surrounded by a halo of rainbow hues.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-07/03/xin_020704031031196647114.jpg

The witnesses believe that it is a miraculous image of Buddha.  Why are they wrong?

Why do you keep ignoring the proof? It's actually been scientificly proven that those are actual faces. How many times do I have to show you this:

In 1929, Alfonso Marcue, who was the official photographer of the old Basilica of Guadalupe in Mexico City, found what seemed to him to be a clear image of a bearded man reflected in the right eye of the Virgin. Initially he did not believe what was before his eyes. How could it be? A bearded man inside of the eyes of the Virgin?. After many inspections of many of his black and white photographs he had no doubts and decided to inform the authorities of the Basilica. He was told that time to keep complete silence about the discovery, which he did.
More than 20 years later, on May 29, 1951, Jose Carlos Salinas Chavez, examining a good photograph of the face, rediscovers the image of what clearly appears to be a bearded man reflected in the right eye of the Virgin, and locates it on the left eye too.


Since then, many people had the opportunity to inspect closely the eyes of the Virgin on the tilma, including more than 20 physicians, ophthalmologists.
The first one, on March 27, 1956, was Dr. Javier Torroella Bueno, MDS, a prestigious ophthalmologist. In what is the first report on the eyes of the image issued by a physician, he certifies what seems to be the presence of the triple reflection (Samson-Purkinje effect) characteristic of all live human eyes and states that the resulting images are located exactly where they are supossed to be according to such effect, and also that the distortion of the images agree with the curvature of the cornea.
The same year another ophthalmologist, Dr. Rafael Torrija Lavoignet, examined the eyes of the image with an ophthalmoscope in great detail. He observed the apparent human figure in the corneas of both eyes, with the location and distortion of a normal human eye and specially noted a unique appearance of the eyes: they look strangely "alive" when examined.
Many other examinations by ophthalmologists have been done of the eyes of the image on the tilma after these first ones. With more or less details all agree with the conclusions of the ones mentioned above.


A new and interesting kind of analysis of the eyes started in 1979, when Dr. Jose Aste Tonsmann, Ph D, graduated from Cornell University, while working in IBM scanned at very high resolutions a very good photograph, taken from the original, of the face on the tilma. After filtering and processing the digitized images of the eyes to eliminate "noise" and enhance them, he reports he made some astonishing discoveries: not only the "human bust" was clearly present in both eyes, but another human figures were seen as reflected in the eyes too.
Dr. Aste Tonsmann published his last studies on the eyes on the tilma in the book "El Secreto de sus Ojos", with complete details and photographs of his work . Perhaps one of the most interesting aspects of the studies is his conclusion that Our Lady of Guadalupe not only left us her miraculous image as proof of her apparition but some important messages too. These messages were hidden in the eyes on the image until our times, when new technologies would allow them to be discovered, when they are most necessary.
That would be the case with the image of a family in the center of the Virgin's eye, in times when families are under serious attack in our modern world. The image of various human figures that seem to constitute a family, including various children and a baby carried in the woman's back as used in the 16th century, appears in the center of the pupil, as shown in this great image of the right eye highlighting the family, generously provided by Dr. Tonsmann.


And by the way, even without scientific proof, it's pretty simple to see that it's definitely a persons face. Can't you see:

http://i35.tinypic.com/27y6d76.jpg


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#1461 2009-11-03 19:26:03

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

<.< No offense or anything, but to me, that just looks like some squiggles and a weird looking rainbow.


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#1462 2009-11-03 19:27:52

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

Version_2 wrote:

I do not like whoever said "There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life." What do you mean!!!!!!!!!!!Maybe you think that, but do I?

What I don't get is the "stop worrying" part. What does that mean? I'm assuming that any atheist would be terrified of death, but I know I'm going to heaven when I die. If I made a religous topic, I would have called it, "There's probably a God. Now stop worrying and do something with your life."


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#1463 2009-11-03 19:30:36

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

igglepie wrote:

<.< No offense or anything, but to me, that just looks like some squiggles and a weird looking rainbow.

It could easily be an unusual rainbow, but it's actually been scientificly proven that the picture in the eye are faces. Also, look at the last picture. can't you see it?


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#1464 2009-11-03 19:33:48

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

martianshark wrote:

igglepie wrote:

<.< No offense or anything, but to me, that just looks like some squiggles and a weird looking rainbow.

It could easily be an unusual rainbow, but it's actually been scientificly proven that the picture in the eye are faces. Also, look at the last picture. can't you see it?

Sure, I see the figure. But how do you know that it's God?


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#1465 2009-11-03 19:34:50

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

martianshark, there is no proof that God exists. No proof at all. Not a single piece of evidence that is true that shows that God exists. Christians believe and have faith in God, we don't look at proof. If you are a true follower of God, you know to believe in Him because you believe in him, not because there is some so-called proof.

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#1466 2009-11-03 19:46:45

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

igglepie wrote:

martianshark wrote:

igglepie wrote:

<.< No offense or anything, but to me, that just looks like some squiggles and a weird looking rainbow.

It could easily be an unusual rainbow, but it's actually been scientificly proven that the picture in the eye are faces. Also, look at the last picture. can't you see it?

Sure, I see the figure. But how do you know that it's God?

What else could it be?


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#1467 2009-11-03 19:48:43

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

adriangl wrote:

martianshark, there is no proof that God exists. No proof at all. Not a single piece of evidence that is true that shows that God exists. Christians believe and have faith in God, we don't look at proof. If you are a true follower of God, you know to believe in Him because you believe in him, not because there is some so-called proof.

Yes, there is proof that God exists. There's lots of proof. I do use faith, but since atheists don't understand faith, I'm using scientific proof.


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#1468 2009-11-03 19:53:57

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

martianshark wrote:

adriangl wrote:

martianshark, there is no proof that God exists. No proof at all. Not a single piece of evidence that is true that shows that God exists. Christians believe and have faith in God, we don't look at proof. If you are a true follower of God, you know to believe in Him because you believe in him, not because there is some so-called proof.

Yes, there is proof that God exists. There's lots of proof. I do use faith, but since atheists don't understand faith, I'm using scientific proof.

For the last time, there is no scientific proof!!! These pictures, how do we know? Everything is faith! And let other people believe what they want to believe because there is no scientific proof the God exists! It is faith!

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#1469 2009-11-03 20:09:12

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

adriangl wrote:

martianshark wrote:

adriangl wrote:

martianshark, there is no proof that God exists. No proof at all. Not a single piece of evidence that is true that shows that God exists. Christians believe and have faith in God, we don't look at proof. If you are a true follower of God, you know to believe in Him because you believe in him, not because there is some so-called proof.

Yes, there is proof that God exists. There's lots of proof. I do use faith, but since atheists don't understand faith, I'm using scientific proof.

For the last time, there is no scientific proof!!! These pictures, how do we know? Everything is faith! And let other people believe what they want to believe because there is no scientific proof the God exists! It is faith!

Agreed. Yet everytime we come to that conclusion, someone brings something up that sounds like "Faith isn't enough." This topic is 59 pages of repetition.


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#1470 2009-11-03 22:54:21

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

adriangl wrote:

martianshark wrote:

adriangl wrote:

martianshark, there is no proof that God exists. No proof at all. Not a single piece of evidence that is true that shows that God exists. Christians believe and have faith in God, we don't look at proof. If you are a true follower of God, you know to believe in Him because you believe in him, not because there is some so-called proof.

Yes, there is proof that God exists. There's lots of proof. I do use faith, but since atheists don't understand faith, I'm using scientific proof.

For the last time, there is no scientific proof!!! These pictures, how do we know? Everything is faith! And let other people believe what they want to believe because there is no scientific proof the God exists! It is faith!

Yes, there is scientific proof. Why don't you know that? I know the pictures are proof because of the science that shows it is. Not everything is faith. There's scientific proof too. And I agree that religous topics should be closed, but as long as it's not, I might as well debate.


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#1471 2009-11-03 22:57:26

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

terminator68 wrote:

D:< Why did you even make this topic? I personally am Christian, and this topic will probably become a religion war!

It already is a religion war.  hmm


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#1472 2009-11-03 22:59:46

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

PROTECT JON STEWART THE MSOT IMPORTANT JEW!
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#1473 2009-11-03 23:57:41

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

martianshark wrote:

Yes, there is scientific proof. Why don't you know that? I know the pictures are proof because of the science that shows it is. Not everything is faith. There's scientific proof too. And I agree that religous topics should be closed, but as long as it's not, I might as well debate.

No, what you are doing is not debating. In a debate one party provides a stance on an issue, and the opposing party backs up their own position with facts and logic. Each party, analyzes the other party's argument and trys to find flaws with the argument.

What you are doing at this point is blindly insisting on your own views being correct without any consideration of other people's thoughts on the issue. I think it has been soundly proven that every evidence you have provided to back your claims up are verifiability false. But, on you go with the same faulty reasoning with no consideration of any ideas other than your own.

You know you have gone too far when other faithful people tell you that you are wrong.


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#1474 2009-11-04 00:28:34

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

archmage wrote:

martianshark wrote:

Yes, there is scientific proof. Why don't you know that? I know the pictures are proof because of the science that shows it is. Not everything is faith. There's scientific proof too. And I agree that religous topics should be closed, but as long as it's not, I might as well debate.

No, what you are doing is not debating. In a debate one party provides a stance on an issue, and the opposing party backs up their own position with facts and logic. Each party, analyzes the other party's argument and trys to find flaws with the argument.

What you are doing at this point is blindly insisting on your own views being correct without any consideration of other people's thoughts on the issue. I think it has been soundly proven that every evidence you have provided to back your claims up are verifiability false. But, on you go with the same faulty reasoning with no consideration of any ideas other than your own.

You know you have gone too far when other faithful people tell you that you are wrong.

Sort of... but adriangl is definitely wrong. Also, a lot of proof I have given has flaws and could possibly have not happened with God, but Our Lady of Guadolupe is total proof.


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#1475 2009-11-04 00:44:02

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Re: There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.

martianshark wrote:

igglepie wrote:

<.< No offense or anything, but to me, that just looks like some squiggles and a weird looking rainbow.

It could easily be an unusual rainbow, but it's actually been scientificly proven that the picture in the eye are faces. Also, look at the last picture. can't you see it?

You can't prove "scientifically" or otherwise that something that looks a bit like a face *is* a face, that's a patently ridiculous assertion.

Yes, I can see something that looks like a face, but I can equally see something that looks like a 1980s cartoon character, which doesn't seem particularly divine to me.  Picking out faces from random patterns is something the human mind is pre-conditioned to do, its such a well known phenomena that it has a scientific term, pareidolia.  As per the video I posted above.

And here is another couple of "things that looks like a face" but are just pure chance.

Mars:
http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/face-on-mars.jpg

The "Nun Bun"
http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/famous-nun-bun.jpg?w=134&amp;h=134

Mary on Toast
http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/grilled-cheese-virgin-mary.jpg?w=200&amp;h=211

Faces in the landscape
http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/Images/stonefaces6.jpg

What does that prove?  Only that humans are good at seeing faces in random patterns.

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