Variable input for keyboard key sensors for making customizable controls?

dusty22

So, it'd be nice if for blocks/sensors that respond to keyboard key presses, you could ‘insert’ variables into the slots that determine which key activates the block, so you could have games use user set custom controls.

That way you could make custom player-defined controls.

Like have a "When Key Pressed“, or ”If Key Pressed", and then have the player set those variables (jumpkey, crouchkey) to which keys they want. Then if they set it to an invalid key the script just simply wouldn't respond.

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Also, as a side suggestion, it'd be nice if we could get a few more keys to select.

I'd mainly like the Shift, Enter, and Ctrl keys, and also definitive right-click Mouse sensing. I know there's some kind of subtle work-around for right mouse click sensing, but it'd be nice to have straight up sensing for it. Anyone agree?

Last edited by dusty22 (June 12, 2013 16:04:11)

dusty22

No one would like being able to set up custom controls?

xlk

this could be done
just use <if key (custom set key) pressed>
and set custom set key to whatever the person set that button to.
You can't do this through scratch thought, you have to edit it with winrar or similar application.

dusty22

But wouldn't it be cool if we could do this IN scratch?

dusty22

*Bump*

So, does my idea make sense the way I explained it? Or no?

iTweak0r

+1 cool idea, I hate having to edit the JSON every time to do this

dusty22

*Bump*

^Thanks for supporting! I'm guessing by JSON you mean you have to hack the Scratch.exe or something along those lines like what xlk said?

NASA-Space

dusty22 wrote:
*Bump*
?

Griffpatch did a Example

TheMatrixKid

Hack the JSON > hack the file data to create a variable block inside the <is () key pressed> block.

VoltageGames

Griffpatch made hacks so you could use tab backspace and enter.
There will never be right clicking. Go around and right click something. Anything! Right-clicks are an important part of computers, and if they are used in a game, you'll find a big white block over a small part of the screen, because it will be listing the options you get for right-clicking.
No support.

Dylan5797

It is

dusty22 wrote:
So, it'd be nice if for blocks/sensors that respond to keyboard key presses, you could ‘insert’ variables into the slots that determine which key activates the block, so you could have games use user set custom controls.

That way you could make custom player-defined controls.

Like have a "When Key Pressed“, or ”If Key Pressed", and then have the player set those variables (jumpkey, crouchkey) to which keys they want. Then if they set it to an invalid key the script just simply wouldn't respond.

//////////////////////////////////////////////////
Also, as a side suggestion, it'd be nice if we could get a few more keys to select.

I'd mainly like the Shift, Enter, and Ctrl keys, and also definitive right-click Mouse sensing. I know there's some kind of subtle work-around for right mouse click sensing, but it'd be nice to have straight up sensing for it. Anyone agree?

It is possible is Windows. All Scratch projects are .zip archives, meaning, renaming a .sb2 file to a .zip file would give you a zip file with the contents of a Scratch project.
When you have this zip file in your hands, you can do things Scratch doesn't normally let you do.
so you could put a

(variable)

in a

<key [space v] pressed?>

like this

<key (variable) pressed?>

or like

<key [\r v] pressed?>

to be exact
see http://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/29421/
EDIT: Ctrl and Command are returned differently in Flash, so Scratch doesn't track Ctrl/Command

Last edited by Dylan5797 (Nov. 29, 2014 20:13:50)

Cyoce

Support, although if you are really devoted to doing customizable controls, there is a work-around.
Instead of:

 
when gf clicked
forever 
if <key (jump key) pressed?> then
jump ::custom-arg
end
end

use:

when green flag clicked
forever
delete (all v) of [Keys v]
if <key [up arrow v] pressed?> then
add [up arrow] to [Keys v]
end
if <key [down arrow v] pressed?> then
add [down arrow] to [Keys v]
end
··· :: grey
if <key [9 v] pressed?> then
add [9] to [Keys v]
end
if <[Keys v] contains (jump key)> then
jump :: custom-arg
end
end

mathman314

VoltageGames wrote:
Griffpatch made hacks so you could use tab backspace and enter.
There will never be right clicking. Go around and right click something. Anything! Right-clicks are an important part of computers, and if they are used in a game, you'll find a big white block over a small part of the screen, because it will be listing the options you get for right-clicking.
No support.

WAIT! WHOA WHOA WHOA! You're talking about Griffpatch, OK! Griffpatch! He is probably a professional programmer! I agree with what you said about right-clicks, but anybody who isn't as good as Griffpatch, which is almost everybody, should have to use the blocks to do it.

Last edited by mathman314 (Nov. 30, 2014 16:43:19)

mathman314

Cyoce wrote:

Support, although if you are really devoted to doing customizable controls, there is a work-around.
Instead of:

 
when gf clicked
forever 
if <key (jump key) pressed?> then
jump ::custom-arg
end
end

use:

when green flag clicked
forever
delete (all v) of [Keys v]
if <key [up arrow v] pressed?> then
add [up arrow] to [Keys v]
end
if <key [down arrow v] pressed?> then
add [down arrow] to [Keys v]
end
··· :: grey
if <key [9 v] pressed?> then
add [9] to [Keys v]
end
if <[Keys v] contains (jump key)> then
jump :: custom-arg
end
end

[/quote]
Brilliant.

Cyoce

mathman314 wrote:

Cyoce wrote:

Support, although if you are really devoted to doing customizable controls, there is a work-around.
Instead of:

 
when gf clicked
forever 
if <key (jump key) pressed?> then
jump ::custom-arg
end
end

use:

when green flag clicked
forever
delete (all v) of [Keys v]
if <key [up arrow v] pressed?> then
add [up arrow] to [Keys v]
end
if <key [down arrow v] pressed?> then
add [down arrow] to [Keys v]
end
··· :: grey
if <key [9 v] pressed?> then
add [9] to [Keys v]
end
if <[Keys v] contains (jump key)> then
jump :: custom-arg
end
end

[/quote]
Brilliant.

Thanks, and sorry I forgot to close scratchblocks

Alpex

But wouldn't you have to define the variable that you are using to customize the controls. This is a way of doing that

when green flag clicked

ask [Define Right key] and wait

set [rKey] to [answer ]

ask [define left key] and wait

set [lKey] to [answer ]

ask [define up key] and wait

set [uKey] to [answer ]

ask [define down key] and wait

set [dKey] to [answer ]

Then you could define it and use it.

FalconGunner99

Alpex wrote:
But wouldn't you have to define the variable that you are using to customize the controls. This is a way of doing that
when green flag clicked
ask [Define Right key] and wait
set [rKey] to [answer ]
ask [define left key] and wait
set [lKey] to [answer ]
ask [define up key] and wait
set [uKey] to [answer ]
ask [define down key] and wait
set [dKey] to [answer ]
Then you could define it and use it.

Well, generally you'd just define the keys while making the project, but if you want customizable controls, then yes.

By the way, don't necropost. Like seriously this thread is older than the rocks that got slowly ground into the old dirt itself.

Last edited by FalconGunner99 (April 10, 2015 04:05:05)

stickfiregames

Support for right click, ctrl, shift and enter sensing.

Support for being able to put variables into the key pressed block, but how would it work with named keys while still being consistent across languages?

FalconGunner99 wrote:
By the way, don't necropost. Like seriously this thread is older than the rocks that got slowly ground into the old dirt itself.

It may be old, but it's still relevant since it hasn't been implemented or rejected.

Last edited by stickfiregames (April 10, 2015 10:49:05)

matey1234

stickfiregames wrote:
Support for right click, ctrl, shift and enter sensing.

Support for being able to put variables into the key pressed block, but how would it work with named keys while still being consistent across languages?

FalconGunner99 wrote:
By the way, don't necropost. Like seriously this thread is older than the rocks that got slowly ground into the old dirt itself.
It may be old, but it's still relevant since it hasn't been implemented or rejected.

Flash cannot detect right click. :L

Seriously, you didn't support tab?

I support ctrl, shift, enter, and tab

stickfiregames

matey1234 wrote:
stickfiregames wrote:
Support for right click, ctrl, shift and enter sensing.

Support for being able to put variables into the key pressed block, but how would it work with named keys while still being consistent across languages?

FalconGunner99 wrote:
By the way, don't necropost. Like seriously this thread is older than the rocks that got slowly ground into the old dirt itself.
It may be old, but it's still relevant since it hasn't been implemented or rejected.
Flash cannot detect right click. :L

Seriously, you didn't support tab?

I support ctrl, shift, enter, and tab

I'm not sure if tab can be detected.
Right click can be detected though:

stickfiregames wrote:
Support.

matey1234 wrote:
right click = undetectable by flash
How does this work then?

if the editor can detect it, then so can the player.

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