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- anton5009
- Scratcher
22 posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
I say Tynker is a complete copy of scratch. They don't even give credit to scratch, and it is just sooo alike.
Heres a pic…
Heres a pic…
- ImagineIt
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
“Tynker is inspired by Scratch from MIT. It is a completely browser-based implementation written using Open Web standards such as Javascript, HTML5, CSS3 and does not use Flash.” They don't even give credit to scratch
Heres a pic…
- pugluv4ever
- Scratcher
100+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
It seems way too alike…the blocks are the same but with slightly different graphics
Oh well if it spreads the love of programming good for them….
Scratch will always remain supreme though
Oh well if it spreads the love of programming good for them….
Scratch will always remain supreme though
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- Lightnin
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
The developers of Tynker did not reach out to us before the launch, so we were surprised to see how much Tynker borrows from Scratch.
As the saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and we always appreciate seeing how different people and projects are inspired by the Scratch approach to programming.
While there is considerable overlap, there are differences. For example, Tynker is a commercial venture, while Scratch is free.
As the saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and we always appreciate seeing how different people and projects are inspired by the Scratch approach to programming.
While there is considerable overlap, there are differences. For example, Tynker is a commercial venture, while Scratch is free.
- mythbusteranimator
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
Pretty much the same. O_O
I've been listening to…
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Orion // Metallica // Master of Puppets // Heavy Metal, Thrash Metal, Instrumental
Damage Inc. // Metallica// Master of Puppets // Thrash Metal, Heavy Metal
Snow (Hey Oh) // Red Hot Chilli Peppers // Snow (Hey Oh) // Soft Rock, Acoustic
Who Wants To Live Forever // Queen // A Kind of Magic // Power Ballad, Soft Rock
I suggest you listen to…
For a influential playlist: Damage Inc and Orion. Both of these songs are part of the album that revolutionized heavy and thrash metal forever.
- cobraguy
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
Wow, it looks like Tynker should be giving more credit than they are, seeing as how much is borrowed from Scratch.
- pugluv4ever
- Scratcher
100+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
Yeah….Its pretty much the same thing….But there's nothing to do but ignore copycats (in real life and the internet) Wow, it looks like Tynker should be giving more credit than they are, seeing as how much is borrowed from Scratch.
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- pugluv4ever
- Scratcher
100+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
SUE copycats (in real life and the internet)But there's nothing to do but
Fixed…
Haha.
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- DerikK
- Scratcher
1 post
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
I agree with @MelonInc. It is nice that Tynker uses HTML5 and CSS3 as these are more adaptable to the future than Flash, but the blocks are just copied. Scratch is free, but Tynker costs money. Scratch is available to everyone, but Tynker is only giving access to schools. I think Tynker's funding should go towards Scratch. They are basically trying to make money off of what Scratch does, while presenting themselves as “new”. Their lessons are a nice feature that maybe Scratch could add, though.
- cobraguy
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
He he! NiceSUE copycats (in real life and the internet)But there's nothing to do but
Fixed…
- jkibbe
- Scratcher
32 posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
Scratch is open source software, so isn't this like a fork or branch? Someone going a different direction with existing code? Kind of like OpenOffice –> LibreOffice. A little healthy competition between money and an academic powerhouse might in the end create a better product…
- Firedrake969
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
It's the same, but only schools can use it ATM.
Oh, and it's the SAME as Scratch but it only says inspired by. I want screenshots of it, though.
Oh, and it's the SAME as Scratch but it only says inspired by. I want screenshots of it, though.
Last edited by Firedrake969 (May 25, 2013 00:23:31)
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- veggieman001
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
Nothing is permanent.
Last edited by veggieman001 (July 17, 2013 02:15:04)
- Randomno
- Scratcher
21 posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
It seems a little too similar, but they added and changed quite a bit and it's not just a rip-off of Scratch.
- wmartin4
- Scratcher
1 post
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
I agree, very similar, and more credit may be due to Scratch from them. It's very similar. However, for elementary classrooms, Tynker provides something that I'm not sure scratch does, or is interested in providing. In Tynker, students can create, but not browse the entire gallery of projects that others make. This can be limiting, and I do let my own children browse all the games and animations. I'm a parent though, and I can't make that decision for all my students.
As a teacher, even though the community polices content, it makes me uneasy to bring all my 9-11 year olds into scratch, and then have some upload be inappropriate. I know that the content on here is way more tame than what many students see or experience, but it's different when that same student goes into a classroom, then the teacher becomes responsible for all the content, or even an off-color comment. You might be surprised what little content can do to get a teacher into hot water.
I personally enjoy scratch the most, but I like the ability to ‘lock down’ what my students see in Tynker. I spent weeks trying to decide how to get my kids on Scratch and make it work for all parties, and I still want to but I'm waiting until we have some experience with Tynker and coding in general until I make the leap. I know that scratch is available as a download, but we use Chromebooks so we need web based stuff.
Well, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this, maybe get a little debate going on this thread.
As a teacher, even though the community polices content, it makes me uneasy to bring all my 9-11 year olds into scratch, and then have some upload be inappropriate. I know that the content on here is way more tame than what many students see or experience, but it's different when that same student goes into a classroom, then the teacher becomes responsible for all the content, or even an off-color comment. You might be surprised what little content can do to get a teacher into hot water.
I personally enjoy scratch the most, but I like the ability to ‘lock down’ what my students see in Tynker. I spent weeks trying to decide how to get my kids on Scratch and make it work for all parties, and I still want to but I'm waiting until we have some experience with Tynker and coding in general until I make the leap. I know that scratch is available as a download, but we use Chromebooks so we need web based stuff.
Well, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this, maybe get a little debate going on this thread.
- ErnieParke
- Scratcher
1000+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
I personally don't see Tinker as a copy of Scratch. Sure, they used lots of the same ideas, but you can't go too far off base without losing the friendliness, and they did a good job considering that. They also do have nice hands on tutorials which are different then Scratch's, but one thing I found (more for sharing then comparison) is that there player seems to lag with key presses.
I don't like the fact of how they lack a forum, but them again, considering how they're going towards a more protected environment, it makes sense.
You do bring up an interesting point; the fact that teachers and parents want to protect their children from content. I remember this coming up a few times before, and I think this is one reason why Tinker got to where it is, considering that it has great competition: Scratch.
My thoughts,
ErnieParke
I don't like the fact of how they lack a forum, but them again, considering how they're going towards a more protected environment, it makes sense.
Don't Chromebooks have some built in memory, however tiny? Couldn't that be used for Scratch, considering it's only 115 kilobytes large ( I agree, very similar, and more credit may be due to Scratch from them. It's very similar. However, for elementary classrooms, Tynker provides something that I'm not sure scratch does, or is interested in providing. In Tynker, students can create, but not browse the entire gallery of projects that others make. This can be limiting, and I do let my own children browse all the games and animations. I'm a parent though, and I can't make that decision for all my students. for Mac)?
As a teacher, even though the community polices content, it makes me uneasy to bring all my 9-11 year olds into scratch, and then have some upload be inappropriate. I know that the content on here is way more tame than what many students see or experience, but it's different when that same student goes into a classroom, then the teacher becomes responsible for all the content, or even an off-color comment. You might be surprised what little content can do to get a teacher into hot water.
I personally enjoy scratch the most, but I like the ability to ‘lock down’ what my students see in Tynker. I spent weeks trying to decide how to get my kids on Scratch and make it work for all parties, and I still want to but I'm waiting until we have some experience with Tynker and coding in general until I make the leap. I know that scratch is available as a download, but we use Chromebooks so we need web based stuff.
Well, I'm interested to hear your thoughts on this, maybe get a little debate going on this thread.
You do bring up an interesting point; the fact that teachers and parents want to protect their children from content. I remember this coming up a few times before, and I think this is one reason why Tinker got to where it is, considering that it has great competition: Scratch.
My thoughts,
ErnieParke
- jh1234l
- Scratcher
100+ posts
So, what do you guys think about Tynker?
There is one difference, though: The interface is like scratch 1.4, but it allows cloning and also has built in physics unlike 1.4. However, if you want a 1.4 interface and cloning, you probably should use BYOB/snap. It also has a built in physics feature. The physics feature may be good for younger kids, but it takes away the core of a programming language made for teaching programming as opposed of being an authoring tool: Using math and variables to simulate velocity.
In conclusion:
If you want to have an offline editor programming language with support for cloning for your school, use a Scratch mod like “Snap!”.
If you want more features and want to teach children how to use velocity scripts and sensing costumes, use Scratch 2.0.
If you want to teach kids how to program at a school and only at a school without having to teach them to make a separate costume for sensing other sprites, then you may want to use Tynker.
In conclusion:
If you want to have an offline editor programming language with support for cloning for your school, use a Scratch mod like “Snap!”.
If you want more features and want to teach children how to use velocity scripts and sensing costumes, use Scratch 2.0.
If you want to teach kids how to program at a school and only at a school without having to teach them to make a separate costume for sensing other sprites, then you may want to use Tynker.
Last edited by jh1234l (Dec. 1, 2013 05:31:12)
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