?-Operator [inline if-then-else]

HTML-Fan

You can't drop a block into a reporter input.
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/418208/?page=1
There I talk about the advanteges of a condition operator.

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Mr_PenguinAlex

theonlygusti wrote:
samanyolu wrote:
MushroomMan99 wrote:
This can be workarounded easily.
if <key [space v] pressed?> then
    
say [Key space is pressed] for (2) secs
else
say [Key space is not pressed] for (2) secs
end
No support
Just because a block has a workaround, in this case, an extremely slow, inefficient and annoying workaround, doesn't mean it can't be in Scratch.

4 blocks is extremely slow and annoying?

HTML-Fan

In scratch, each block has to be parsed, like BASIC on the C64. And, similar to BASIC, if you have a command that makes something, it's always faster then a workaround for the same thing.
And it's really annoying since the inline if else is a reporter, so you need a variable to store it. If you need this multiple times like here:

go to x: (<key [right v] pressed?> ? (10) : (0) :: control) y: (<key [up v] pressed?> ? (10) : (0) :: control)

you need multiple variables. And please, don't come up with an alternative for this specific line.

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p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-

bump

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This is a dupe!

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p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:
bump

Please don't bump old threads

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Zelfen wrote:
p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:
bump
Please don't bump old threads

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Zelfen

fdreerf wrote:
Zelfen wrote:
p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p- wrote:
bump
Please don't bump old threads
Necroposts don't exist in suggestions

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+-0 so idk support lol this is old also

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Your right about it being a dupe, but you are wrong with the link

This is the real dupe, which was linked on the first page but still not closed or noticed.

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I'm not quite sure what could be done with this that could not be done with the regular E block. Could someone explain?

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jaguar1501 wrote:
I'm not quite sure what could be done with this that could not be done with the regular E block. Could someone explain?

Oh, an old post by me does.

HTML-Fan wrote:
In scratch, each block has to be parsed, like BASIC on the C64. And, similar to BASIC, if you have a command that makes something, it's always faster then a workaround for the same thing.
And it's really annoying since the inline if else is a reporter, so you need a variable to store it. If you need this multiple times like here:
go to x: (<key [right v] pressed?> ? (10) : (0) :: control) y: (<key [up v] pressed?> ? (10) : (0) :: control)
you need multiple variables. And please, don't come up with an alternative for this specific line.

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                      BE MOIST B) AND CHECK OUT
 _____              ______ _                          _                 
|_   _|             |  _  (_)                        (_)                
  | |_      _____   | | | |_ _ __ ___   ___ _ __  ___ _  ___  _ __  ___       #RoadToMoist100
  | \ \ /\ / / _ \  | | | | | '_ ` _ \ / _ \ '_ \/ __| |/ _ \| '_ \/ __|
  | |\ V  V / (_) | | |/ /| | | | | | |  __/ | | \__ \ | (_) | | | \__ \
  \_/ \_/\_/ \___/  |___/ |_|_| |_| |_|\___|_| |_|___/_|\___/|_| |_|___/

jaguar1501

HTML-Fan wrote:
jaguar1501 wrote:
I'm not quite sure what could be done with this that could not be done with the regular E block. Could someone explain?
Oh, an old post by me does.
HTML-Fan wrote:
In scratch, each block has to be parsed, like BASIC on the C64. And, similar to BASIC, if you have a command that makes something, it's always faster then a workaround for the same thing.
And it's really annoying since the inline if else is a reporter, so you need a variable to store it. If you need this multiple times like here:
go to x: (<key [right v] pressed?> ? (10) : (0) :: control) y: (<key [up v] pressed?> ? (10) : (0) :: control)
you need multiple variables. And please, don't come up with an alternative for this specific line.

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Support! I see this block in “Snap!” and it helps shorten scripts.

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sathvikrias

i understand why you want this, but easily workaroundable so semi-support

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sathvikrias wrote:
i understand why you want this, but easily workaroundable so semi-support

Agree. Semi-support.

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qrcool

I’ve always found that, while lazy coders are said to be the best coders, and this does help laziness, the current if/else block organizes things in an easier-to-understand fashion. However, from my understanding, this essentially removes the need for a boolean variable to state whether the block returned if, elif, or else. Thus, this would be rather useful, especially given the fact that lists and variables are in the same category.

Edit: My support is under the condition that the current block would also stay, as a loop can do things a reporter can't.

Last edited by qrcool (Nov. 1, 2020 14:52:19)

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No support just:

when green flag clicked
ask [...] and wait
if <(answer) = [..]> then 
say [...]
  

else
say [...]
end

Not on scratch very often

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Full support! It's in Snap and quite useful.
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