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EIephant_Lover
Scratcher
500+ posts

How to better format your topic!

Ever had an issue with a script, or needed someone to tell you how to do something in a project?
This forum is the place for you!





What to Do

First, you need to make a topic! Don't reply to another post asking for help, or not many people will see it. Click the “New Topic” button in the top right of the Help with Scripts forum. Be sure your topic has to do with needing help with scripts, not making art, requesting music, or something like that.



Choosing a Title

The first thing people see about your topic is the title. Make sure it makes sense, is specific, and it isn't too attention-seeking.

A good example
How do I delete the last item of a list?

A bad example
HELP ME!!!1!!

People are more likely to help if they understand what you need help with. If I'm good with variables, I'm more likely to click a topic that has a title about variables than a vague one that could be anything.



Explaining the Problem

First, you need to say what you need. If you have a glitch in code you already wrote, say so! Here's some examples of how to start based on different things you need.

A glitch in a script
I'm having trouble with my project. In one of the scripts, it doesn't function like I need it to. The items aren't being deleted from the list!

Advice on how to make a script
I'm wondering how to delete the last item from my list. I've tried a few things but I can't figure it out.

Now, you need to go into greater detail. Those are just examples of introductions. Notice how it's specific and makes sense. But, it still doesn't tell you exactly what you need help with. You need to say where in the script your problem occurs, if you know. You need to specify what the issue is - saying that the items in a list aren't being deleted is not specific. Make sure you note anything you've tried, and any theories as to why you think it won't work. Also make sure you say what your script is supposed to do. Try to give a link to the project where the problem occurs, and explain where you can find the script. Be sure that your project is shared! Make sure to also note what other scripts you think might be affecting it and/or causing the problem.
Here are some body examples to match the above:

A glitch in a script
I have a script that is supposed to always delete the last item of my list! I don't know what's wrong. Here's what the script looks like.
when I receive [message1 v]
delete (length of (list1 :: list)) of [list1 v]
It's supposed to delete the last one because the length of the list is always the last item. I think it might be because the length block is telling me the length of all of the total characters in the list, not the items, but I'm not sure. Please help!

Advice on how to make a script
I'm trying to make a script that will delete the last item in my list when it receives a message. I don't know how to do it. I tried to make it delete the tenth item in a list since it's usually ten items long, but sometimes it's longer so it glitches if I do that. Any ideas on how to do that?

Make sure you don't type too much. People might get bored, or think the issue is more complicated than it is and not want to help as much. You could get help in no time!



After you Post

Here are some more examples of how people might respond:

A glitch in a script
I think that your problem is that you are using the “length of ()” block from the operations category. Your script right now detects the length of the whole list, meaning if your list was “apple”, “banana”, “orange”, it would report the length of “applebananaorange” (17), and not the amount of items (3). Just change it to this block:
(length of [list1 v] :: list)
And it should work!

Advice on how to make a script
Maybe try this:
when I receive [message1 v]
delete (length of [list1 v] :: list) of [list1 v]
The length of the list is always the last item in it, no matter how long your list is, so it should work!

If someone misunderstands what you are asking, don't get mad! It's probably because you didn't explain well enough. Try to restate what you mean. Be sure to stay calm and possibly edit your original post to explain better as well.

If someone helps, be sure to thank them, and if they give you a script that you end up using, be sure to credit them in the Notes and Credits of your project.

I hope this guide could help you!

Last edited by EIephant_Lover (July 30, 2019 20:02:50)

a-jar-of-tuna
Scratcher
100+ posts

How to better format your topic!

Wow! This is really helpful, especially to users new to the forums!

here comes that sticky

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Website (See my projects!) -> https://a-jar-of-tuna.github.io/

EIephant_Lover
Scratcher
500+ posts

How to better format your topic!

a-jar-of-tuna wrote:

Wow! This is really helpful, especially to users new to the forums!

here comes that sticky
Thank you!
a-jar-of-tuna
Scratcher
100+ posts

How to better format your topic!


Pianist, violinist, coder, programmer, web developer, haxor; Coded with Scratch for 2 years
Website (See my projects!) -> https://a-jar-of-tuna.github.io/

deck26
Scratcher
1000+ posts

How to better format your topic!

But like any random help it will quickly disappear down the forum pages and attract little attention. The forum works best if we let those needing help post new topics - anything else tends to confuse things.

In most cases people don't even read the sticky topics on how to post so I don't see how this will get any more attention. Sorry if that sounds negative but we see this sort of thing regularly here.
EIephant_Lover
Scratcher
500+ posts

How to better format your topic!

deck26 wrote:

In most cases people don't even read the sticky topics on how to post so I don't see how this will get any more attention. Sorry if that sounds negative but we see this sort of thing regularly here.
Of course, most people probably don't read the stickies, but it doesn't mean not many people do. Even the oldest topic on here has only around 2800 views, and all of the stickies have 9500+, two of them having 92000-93000+. That's a lot of people.

deck26 wrote:

But like any random help…

I looked through the past few days' posts, and I found something remotely similar, but it was random script help, not help to format how to ask a question. This isn't really “random”, because I constantly see people posting vague and hard to understand topics, and I figured this would help. There are similar things stickied in almost every forum.

Last edited by EIephant_Lover (July 28, 2019 20:50:21)

-Reshiram-
Scratcher
100+ posts

How to better format your topic!

Very nice guide! <totally didn't just report it to be a sticky>

I am now @SquirreIstar with an i, as in “I used to be -Reshiram-”
EIephant_Lover
Scratcher
500+ posts

How to better format your topic!

-Reshiram- wrote:

Very nice guide! <totally didn't just report it to be a sticky>
Thank you
openPoll
Scratcher
1000+ posts

How to better format your topic!

Very nice guide!
Reporting to be iTopic'd!

Moi? Whaddya wahnt from moi?

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DipLeChip
Scratcher
1000+ posts

How to better format your topic!

This has already been done: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/233605/

stop fuming and start loving :p
deck26
Scratcher
1000+ posts

How to better format your topic!

EIephant_Lover wrote:

deck26 wrote:

In most cases people don't even read the sticky topics on how to post so I don't see how this will get any more attention. Sorry if that sounds negative but we see this sort of thing regularly here.
Of course, most people probably don't read the stickies, but it doesn't mean not many people do. Even the oldest topic on here has only around 2800 views, and all of the stickies have 9500+, two of them having 92000-93000+. That's a lot of people.

deck26 wrote:

But like any random help…

I looked through the past few days' posts, and I found something remotely similar, but it was random script help, not help to format how to ask a question. This isn't really “random”, because I constantly see people posting vague and hard to understand topics, and I figured this would help. There are similar things stickied in almost every forum.
How is the number of views of the oldest topic of any relevance? It's been languishing at the bottom of hundreds of forum pages for 6 years.

The most relevant sticky has fewer than 10K views which is less impressive. As @OwenRich points out it covers much of what your topic does - did you read it first?

Your topic is still random help whether it is script help or not. The fact you didn't find anything similar is hardly evidence that your topic somehow fits here.

All of this is just my opinion of course.

EIephant_Lover
Scratcher
500+ posts

How to better format your topic!

deck26 wrote:

EIephant_Lover wrote:

deck26 wrote:

In most cases people don't even read the sticky topics on how to post so I don't see how this will get any more attention. Sorry if that sounds negative but we see this sort of thing regularly here.
Of course, most people probably don't read the stickies, but it doesn't mean not many people do. Even the oldest topic on here has only around 2800 views, and all of the stickies have 9500+, two of them having 92000-93000+. That's a lot of people.

deck26 wrote:

But like any random help…

I looked through the past few days' posts, and I found something remotely similar, but it was random script help, not help to format how to ask a question. This isn't really “random”, because I constantly see people posting vague and hard to understand topics, and I figured this would help. There are similar things stickied in almost every forum.
How is the number of views of the oldest topic of any relevance? It's been languishing at the bottom of hundreds of forum pages for 6 years.

The most relevant sticky has fewer than 10K views which is less impressive. As @OwenRich points out it covers much of what your topic does - did you read it first?

Your topic is still random help whether it is script help or not. The fact you didn't find anything similar is hardly evidence that your topic somehow fits here.

All of this is just my opinion of course.

I just mentioned the bit about the oldest topic since I figured you would say something about the oldest topic having more views that a sticky (you said “I don't see how this will get any more attention”), though it doesn't. I didn't really read that one first, I did notice that the help was a bit buried and after making this I skimmed it a bit. I'm not using the fact that I didn't find similar things as evidence that it fits, I'm using that to say that it doesn't seem you get this stuff regularly. The thing I was saying to say why it fits is that almost every forum has a sticky like this.

But, whatever
Nambaseking01
Scratcher
1000+ posts

How to better format your topic!

I'm reporting this to be stickied — this is really helpful!

Hey there! My name is Nammy. I'm a male Forum Helper and Scratch Wiki Editor.
Profile | Test Account | Talk with me here! | Griffpatch is quitting Scratch?!
EIephant_Lover
Scratcher
500+ posts

How to better format your topic!

Nambaseking01 wrote:

I'm reporting this to be stickied — this is really helpful!
Thanks, but I don't think it will be :P It's already been reported twice.

Last edited by EIephant_Lover (July 29, 2019 18:40:45)

Paddle2See
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

How to better format your topic!

Nambaseking01 wrote:

I'm reporting this to be stickied — this is really helpful!
Well, let's give it a try. We don't have an overload of stickies here yet - so there's a bit of room.

Thanks for making it - let's hope it helps

Scratch Team Member, kayak and pickleball enthusiast, cat caregiver.

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EIephant_Lover
Scratcher
500+ posts

How to better format your topic!

Paddle2See wrote:

Nambaseking01 wrote:

I'm reporting this to be stickied — this is really helpful!
Well, let's give it a try. We don't have an overload of stickies here yet - so there's a bit of room.

Thanks for making it - let's hope it helps
Thank you
axisjack
Scratcher
100+ posts

How to better format your topic!

You might want users to share their project as well.
EIephant_Lover
Scratcher
500+ posts

How to better format your topic!

axisjack wrote:

You might want users to share their project as well.
Yep haha, I'll add that.
Nambaseking01
Scratcher
1000+ posts

How to better format your topic!

-I-I-I-I- wrote:

How do you make it so you can have infinite costumes? is it like this?
forever

when green flag clickedend
next costume

Hello! Please don't ask scripting help here — create a topic like mentioned in the OP here.

Hey there! My name is Nammy. I'm a male Forum Helper and Scratch Wiki Editor.
Profile | Test Account | Talk with me here! | Griffpatch is quitting Scratch?!
RainbowsToybox
Scratcher
100+ posts

How to better format your topic!

EIephant_Lover wrote:

Ever had an issue with a script, or needed someone to tell you how to do something in a project?
This forum is the place for you!





What to Do

First, you need to make a topic! Don't reply to another post asking for help, or not many people will see it. Click the “New Topic” button in the top right of the Help with Scripts forum. Be sure your topic has to do with needing help with scripts, not making art, requesting music, or something like that.



Choosing a Title

The first thing people see about your topic is the title. Make sure it makes sense, is specific, and it isn't too attention-seeking.

A good example
How do I delete the last item of a list?

A bad example
HELP ME!!!1!!

People are more likely to help if they understand what you need help with. If I'm good with variables, I'm more likely to click a topic that has a title about variables than a vague one that could be anything.



Explaining the Problem

First, you need to say what you need. If you have a glitch in code you already wrote, say so! Here's some examples of how to start based on different things you need.

A glitch in a script
I'm having trouble with my project. In one of the scripts, it doesn't function like I need it to. The items aren't being deleted from the list!

Advice on how to make a script
I'm wondering how to delete the last item from my list. I've tried a few things but I can't figure it out.

Now, you need to go into greater detail. Those are just examples of introductions. Notice how it's specific and makes sense. But, it still doesn't tell you exactly what you need help with. You need to say where in the script your problem occurs, if you know. You need to specify what the issue is - saying that the items in a list aren't being deleted is not specific. Make sure you note anything you've tried, and any theories as to why you think it won't work. Also make sure you say what your script is supposed to do. Try to give a link to the project where the problem occurs, and explain where you can find the script. Be sure that your project is shared! Make sure to also note what other scripts you think might be affecting it and/or causing the problem.
Here are some body examples to match the above:

A glitch in a script
I have a script that is supposed to always delete the last item of my list! I don't know what's wrong. Here's what the script looks like.
when I receive [message1 v]
delete (length of (list1 :: list)) of [list1 v]
It's supposed to delete the last one because the length of the list is always the last item. I think it might be because the length block is telling me the length of all of the total characters in the list, not the items, but I'm not sure. Please help!

Advice on how to make a script
I'm trying to make a script that will delete the last item in my list when it receives a message. I don't know how to do it. I tried to make it delete the tenth item in a list since it's usually ten items long, but sometimes it's longer so it glitches if I do that. Any ideas on how to do that?

Make sure you don't type too much. People might get bored, or think the issue is more complicated than it is and not want to help as much. You could get help in no time!



After you Post

Here are some more examples of how people might respond:

A glitch in a script
I think that your problem is that you are using the “length of ()” block from the operations category. Your script right now detects the length of the whole list, meaning if your list was “apple”, “banana”, “orange”, it would report the length of “applebananaorange” (17), and not the amount of items (3). Just change it to this block:
(length of [list1 v] :: list)
And it should work!

Advice on how to make a script
Maybe try this:
when I receive [message1 v]
delete (length of [list1 v] :: list) of [list1 v]
The length of the list is always the last item in it, no matter how long your list is, so it should work!

If someone misunderstands what you are asking, don't get mad! It's probably because you didn't explain well enough. Try to restate what you mean. Be sure to stay calm and possibly edit your original post to explain better as well.

If someone helps, be sure to thank them, and if they give you a script that you end up using, be sure to credit them in the Notes and Credits of your project.

I hope this guide could help you!
this is really helpful, thanks!

hi im roz
i dont like this username either but i cant change it

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